No I’m not using Kali for “hacking” I’m experimenting if I can play games on it and I guess my little experiment failed here, I never had a smooth experience with Debian before it always break itself when doing a system updates.

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    3 months ago

    This is nowhere near the average Debian update experience. Debian is favoured precisely for its stability and simplicity, so if youre getting stuff like this, it’s far from average.

    Those errors look like file corruption. Maybe they were partially downloaded or written to a flakey disk, it’s hard to say. I’d also echo the other comment or that Kali (and honestly Debian) are not well suited for gaming due to the distro preference for Freely-licenced software and favouring stability vs quick releases.

    It’s fine if you want to experiment and “swim against the current” to do a thing with a tool for which it’s not designed, but turn around and complain as if this is normal behaviour is either dishonest or outs you as someone who doesn’t have the experience required to make such a statement.

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      I game on Debian; it is absolutely up to the task.

      It is called the universal operating system for a reason.

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    I have no idea what you’re doing wrong, but I’ve been using Debian for over twenty years and it’s by far the most stable OS I’ve ever used, particularly the update system. I’m currently maintaining around 50 debian systems and never seen an issue you like you’ve posted, so no, there’s nothing average about what your’e saying.

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    Despite all the warnings not to install kali linux, I decided to install kali linux and I am now encountering an issue I would not face had I chosen to use a linux distro designed with normal desktop use in mind. Can anyone help me?

    Actually, modern kali is a lot more usable than the older kali. Kali used to only have a root user, so chromium and electron apps wouldn’t start since they don’t run as root.

    Despite this, nowadays I generally recommend new people away from kali, because I believe the process of installing the tools that kali provides on other distros is a valuable learning experience.

    Kali is great for the professional, but but learners I prefer they get to experience the package manager or other aspects of system management.

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    No I’m not using Kali for “hacking” I’m experimenting if I can play games on it

    Sorry but… why on earth would you do that? Kali is a specialized distro, it’s not made for day to day desktop use, much less for gaming on it. If you want to game on Linux, pick either a generic or gaming-oriented distro, and use Kali in a VM or dualboot.

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    Wow, I’ve managed a handful of Debian or Ubuntu servers and used it personally for over 15 years. It has been super stable but I have seen a number of errors running updates, usually it’s some obscure config I forgot to update at some point or a removed package file. This is an entirely new one to me.

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    Is Kali based on Debian Testing? Such issues can happen in the testing branch because sometimes only some of the dependencies from unstable get moved into it.

    That’s why it’s strongly discouraged to use Testing.

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      Yup! Kali is a rolling distro built on Debian Testing, not Stable, annual releases. It can be used as a desktop OS, but still has pen testing and other security tools as their main focus

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    I never had problems, particularly with a popular package like Chromium, and I’m even using Debian-Testing, which is supposed to be unstable. You’re definitely fiddling enough with your system to get Debian to get into DLL hell.

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    Some actionnable suggestions :

    • Verify disk using smartmontools.
    • Verify memory using memcheck.
    • (Temporarily) disable unofficial apt repos, do apt update, purge then reinstall the affected packages.
    • If that didn’t help or you need more help, you could go to kali forum to politely request help, with a precise description of the issue. Please refrain from ranting even if you’re annoyed.

    Keep in mind this is free software provided without warranty. No one ows you a stable experience nor support. People are giving this software away and volonteering time and resources to make this happen. If there’s a bug and you need it fixed, please submit a bug report, ideally with a patch to fix it.