Assembly being obsolete has to be the funniest joke in here. It fundamentally never will be even if its use is niche
…and C++ being obsolete is the second funniest.
It is clearly surpassed by C though this chart seems to have missed that fact.
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How are you defining “Obsolete” vs “Nu”?
e.g. Brainfuck from 1993 is all the way to Nu, while D (2001) and Rust (2012) are less “Nu”?
Yeah, the axes on this are weird, why would the opposite of a systems language be a toy language? And why is Lua, a very popular and commonly used language in tons of stuff, a “toy”? And Lua is a nu Lang? It’s older than Java, maybe it just feels newer because each release isn’t necessarily backwards compatible?
OP is a “C guy”
If everything written in those “obsolete” languages suddenly disappeared, the whole world would go dark.
That doesn’t stop them from being obsolete, it just means that people who have the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mentality can get fucked.
SQL isn’t a toy language, it’s a domain specific language.
How is C or assembly obsolete when they are literally everywhere is beyond me
Curious how you decided what goes where, I’d hardly consider SQL a “Toy Lang” as opposed to a “System Lang”
That it’s an interpreted language rather than a compiled one. Bytecode and interpreted langs get the Toy Lang treatment. At least SQL has floating points.
So, it’s an almost useless dimension with misleading names? Yeah, it’s a good “political compass”.
That’s… a really dumb definition. And why is C# right in the middle but Java’s towards obsolete and toy lang? They both compile to byte code and are overall extremely similar.
Javascript is compiled, just in time.
This guy JITs 👆
What’s the difference between interpreted and compiled?
How is cobol toy wasn’t it made for military?
The only way Assembly will be obsolete is if there were no new chips processor models being created.
Every time a new architecture or a new instruction group is announced, it has to be bootstrapped into the C compiler.
Did you just note Typescript, a superset of JavaScript that needs to be compiled into it, as closer to the system?
Also does it technically constitute a language? That feels like a stretch too.
Did the same with D’s superset, betterC.
betterC is a subset… 🤦
Yes, TypeScript is a language by any definition.
Why is it missing Haskell?
How is Lua further down along the Nu Lang axis than Go, Rust and Nim?
SQL? Toy?
I don’t get what toy lang means?
For playing with, rather than ‘serious’ projects
The opposite of system language, especially as many scripting languages have “beginner” features, like a single number type instead of integers and floats, dynamic types.
I would call that a high level language. Like, the further you abstract from the hardware, the higher level the language.
Calling it a “toy” language implies that it isn’t useful. You have languages in there that are incredibly useful, like SQL, that basically run the entire internet.
a lot of suspicuously missing lisps
A systems language, one of the oldest but still in use and modeled after, used to build expensive research toys, which compiles itself via its interpreter…. is in some 4d space this plane doesn’t slice through.
FORTH also out in space somewhere
