This was bound to happen, and it’s ridiculous

  • JaggedRobotPubes
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    Talk more openly about how none of these people give a fuck about protecting kids, and just want to make life shitty for everyone including them grab power.

    Point out bad faith and don’t let it be about anything else, until it actually is. We can’t get anywhere because nobody’s actually dealing with the actual situation, which is people lying publicly.

    Stop going along with that shit. Every time you talk about the fake issue, you’re helping them by pretending they’re telling the truth when they aren’t.

  • @SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world
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    They’re probably thinking --> “Damn it, how dare these future employees watch pornography and undermine their motivation to work?”

  • irmadlad
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    226 hours ago

    I’ve been biting my tongue hard these past few months in a concerted effort not to be offensive. I’m not trying to be intentionally offensive, however, I feel there is an element in this situation that is being disregarded in favor of someone else doing your work. When I say ‘You’, Your’, etc, I mean it in the royal sense. So, warm up the downvote finger and man the flame throwers.

    If it’s genuinely for the children, then when are we going to require parents to be parents? Look, you brought this service into your home voluntarily. You might say ‘Well I need it for work’ or ‘I need it for school’. Tons of people use hundreds of thousands of hotspots daily to do their thing on the internet. This service you voluntarily brought into your house, has both the ability to be highly beneficial and highly detrimental all in the same breath. Technology always, always, always wields a double edged sword.

    And what do the majority of parents do with such power? They give it to their vulnerable, under aged, highly curious, children, un-monitored, uncensored, and uninhibited. Are you insane? So when little Johnny is caught surfing porn hub, the parents freak and cry out to their government ‘We need to ban porn!’ No! What we need is for parents to be parents.

    There are literally hundreds of services, and ways to lock down your internet. I hear parents say ‘I’m not technologically inclined.’ Get there. The safety and well being of your children hang in the balance. Take a class at your local Tech College. I’d be willing to bet that when little Johnny’s mom was pregnant, she most likely did some reading on the topic. Some even take a class on childbirth. The internet should be no different. Access one or two of the billions of tuts out on the internet.

    Now, will locking down your internet like a multi-billion dollar enterprise with a Brinks Kit keep little Johnny from seeing some skin? No! Why? Because it’s natural for humans to want to see what other humans look like naked. Children are naturally inquisitive. The prime directive of all life is to replicate. So, have frank, open, direct, and yes, awkward conversations with your children. Let them know in no uncertain terms what is acceptable on your network. Tell them why these things are not appropriate for their age group. This relationship with your children starts at Day 1.

    You have 18 years of boot camp to equip your children with all the tools necessary to make wise, prudent decisions in life. You probably taught them how to ride a bicycle, or drive a car, or any number of teaching opportunities parents have with their children. The internet should be no different. We live in a technological time line that is ever changing, so it behooves parents to know exactly what is going on with their technology and how their children are using it. Get with it.

    Being a parent takes work. Being a network administrator also takes work. Anyone who is a seasoned veteran of this chan knows, to secure a network in order to be as private, secure, and anonymous as possible on the internet, takes work. I find, a large portion of parents are unwilling to do the work and would rather fob off their responsibilities as a parent, to the government having jurisdiction. I’m not painting all parents with this brush. Kudos to parents who are very involved in their children’s lives. There are enough of them tho, that are not, and this is a big issue. It gives governments the justification they desire to surveil their citizenry.

    Let the roast begin.

    • @Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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      So, warm up the downvote finger and man the flame throwers.

      cracks knuckles, pulls out pitchfork and flamethrower

      reads full comment

      Goddamnit… they’re right…

      throws toys out the pram

      • irmadlad
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        14 hours ago

        Can’t tell if serious. I am older than the internet. I’m not sure what that has to do with the issues of governmental surveillance under the guise of ‘for the chirren.’

  • @PacketPilot@lemmy.world
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    Honestly I think access to AI chatbots at an early age is way more harmful to the developing brain. Character.ai is a very popular platform among younger gen z. LLMs are giving grown adults full blown psychosis, where’s all the concern for the children when it comes to a dangerous tool like that? What a bunch of geriatric fucking clowns.

    • @Evotech@lemmy.world
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      I agree, using saas services is a curse.

      If you don’t self host your goon llm she’s a prostitute

  • Cosmoooooooo
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    Same religious garbage they’ve been trying to pull for the last 75+ years.

    “Someone think of the CHILDREN!!!”.

    They scream, as they take away your rights to information, privacy, and anything else that they possibly can. They don’t want you to have rights.

  • @Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
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    children figuring out VPNs in a week while these bumfucks (state that they) didn’t manage to understand it in the years they’ve been given just goes to show the many orders of magnitudes of difference in their intelligence

    • @AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      No, this is intentional, the ultimate goal is a censored internet a la China. This was just the easiest gateway to doing that.

      They are coming for VPNs next.

      • @StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world
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        This. The tech giants are trying to ‘solidify’ the current structure of the internet and gatekeep its information. We’re going from archival libraries to curated and policed propaganda. Google seems to be the key piece of the upcoming change with the most broad general access to user data through the cell phone.

        It’s not just them. There’s like a council of 4 or 5 but Google is the best placed. Kind of a ‘community leader’

  • This is so fucking stupid, you cannot stop VPNs, because things like ShadowSocks exist. When will they learn that the only way to stop VPNs is to disable the internet completely. As long as the internet exists, VPNs will too. Ask your friend Xi Jinping about that.

    • Pearl
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      Xi Jinping will be more than happy to provide consultation work for the UK government. Stop giving them ideas.

      VPN use in China is effectively banned. Big corporations serve shittier Facebook that 99% of the population is satisfied with.

  • @Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world
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    Josh Lane was addicted to porn by 14-years-old after first finding it via a Google search when he was aged 12.

    Now 25 and happily married.

    Wow. Porn really destroyed this mans life. What a tragic tale.

    • Synapse
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      He told Newsnight the addiction caused him to isolate himself from friends and family because he was “afraid of anyone discovering that I was hooked.”

      Mr Lane described finding “the only place I could get, I guess, love and intimacy was from pornography” at the same time as feeling “heaps of guilt and shame”

      The problem seems to have more to do with lack of proper sex education and social pressure rather than pornography. Why did he have to feel so ashamed that he isolated himself? That’s a real issue here!

    • @MoonMelon@lemmy.ml
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      318 hours ago

      If jacking off constantly at age 14 doomed a person we would never have left the Miocene epoch.

      • irmadlad
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        16 hours ago

        Tho not so prevelant in this current timeline with internet access, there is a global phenomenon that most little boys can attest to. When we were growing up, there was forest porn. No one knew how it got there. No one claimed it. But in every town, county, village, city, et al, there were some woods with forest porn.

        I do not condone children viewing porn because they are not mentally or emotionally ready for that. However, I do know it exists and gosh, it seems to me that some proper parenting skills would solve a lot of problems.

    • @LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
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      It’s not like it can’t happen, i also found porn very early on. I got addicted and it ruined my early sex life. Real women weren’t “exciting” anymore and I’d lost my sensitivity as well.

      This is NOT the solution but it’s also not not an issue

  • @latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Why not just gouge out their eyeballs, it’s the only way to make sure!

    Oh, what’s that, it’s not actually about the porn, it’s about getting everyone to self-submit personal info to your shitty databases? Ooh, ok, gotcha!

    Edit: sorry about the non-squitur, I’m losing my fucking mind…

  • Riskable
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    2610 hours ago

    I guess it’s just too late for all those children that viewed porn. The piles of their dead bodies must be enormous!

    • @Zerush@lemmy.ml
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      Naturally is a problem of the parents and of nobody else, but the childrens are only an excuse of legislators to impose control, the only reason. If not the children than are crimes or terrorism to justify surveillance. More fascist an gov, more censorship, more biased information and less privacy is supported, it’s an axiom, the best citizen is an ignorant and submissive one. “First they banned childs from porn sites, than they banned anonym access to Wikipedia and VPN…” recipe how to cook a frog

      https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO02/20220407/114616/HHRG-117-GO02-20220407-SD018.pdf

      Repeating history by the same assholes to kill the free and open internet and information.

  • @Hauntology95@lemmy.ml
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    A friend recently told me that palantir has some sort of stake in this data management for the OSA? Is this true? I know they’ve had a deal with NHS England for a few years

    If so, our world is taking a very scary turn

    If anyone hasn’t I’d advise to do research on palantir, Peter thiel and Curtis Yarvin for a window into the psychology of the people pushing us down this road

    Here’s a great video on the subject

    • @birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      If Thiel’s mafia organisation (I refuse to call that scrap by desecrating sir Tolkien’s works’ names) has a deal with the NHS, then that should be ended ASAP. Fuck that, that’s some serious spying.

      Capitalism is shit, and there are things where it especially NEVER, EVER should have any access, power or influence, directly or indirectly:

      • Health services
      • Parliaments, committees, assemblies
      • Nature
      • Housing
      • Water and food
      • National security
  • @icelimit@lemmy.ml
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    I have a great job lined up in the UK, I’m not sure I can take it up considering that is turning into this kind of shit hole.

    • @birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I wouldn’t take it up, honestly. Best to go for somewhere in the EU instead.

      The UK is a US puppet state, and pretty much showing it.

      • @icelimit@lemmy.ml
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        I’m EU adjacent, with better privacy laws and definitely aware of the role parents need to play in parenting and of government overreach. I’m happy here but dem monies

        • @birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Hmm, I don’t know your situation, but if you’re living in Switzerland, Norway, the Faroe Islands, or Iceland, I honestly would just recommend staying there.

          If it’s in Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo, or Bosnia, then yeah, fair. But I thought none of those had good privacy laws?

          Can’t imagine Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, or Turkey have good privacy laws. And certainly not any of the North African countries…

  • FriendOfDeSoto
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    [Find in Page:] “Parent”=0 “Parents”=0 “Father”=0 “Mother”=0

    It’s their job to guard their kids from this content first and foremost. It’s their job to put it into context for their children. But the article doesn’t even mention that any of this is a humongous failing of parents.

    Next this commissioner will want to outlaw computer mice because they’re used to click pornographic content without verifying the age of the finger on the button. And roads because adult content actors use them to get to jobs.

    The way forward is not banning or making worse all sorts of useful tools as collateral damage in this “think of the children” campaign. It is to get all adult content everywhere behind a barrier toddlers cannot break. We were fine with porn mags partially obscured on the top shelf at a news agent when that was a thing. And the salesperson making sure the customer wasn’t a minor. The solution isn’t closing all digital news agents.

    And it’s quite telling that the existence of VPNs didn’t play a bigger part in this UK online safety initiative. Like it wasn’t obvious that when the west entrance to porn central was closed off, people wouldn’t naturally look for the ones in east, north, and south.

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