Hopefully this moves people to view kernel level anti-cheat as malicious and as nefarious as other malware.
not my problem…these aren’t games worth spending a dime on.
Who could have predicted that hanging ten conflicting kernel-level anti-cheat installations might cause compatibility problems?
The installations aren’t the problem. Trying to run them at the same time is the problem, but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
Not sure if you’re being serious, but at least Riot Games’ anti-cheat Vanguard always wants to be running in the background, whether the game is running or not. Sure, you can stop it, but if you then want to play something that requires it, you have to reboot. There’s no manual way to start it.
One of the reasons I decided to drop Valorant.
Hm - arguably, that actually puts Riot more at fault here.
It’s a scummy environment either way, but at least if Battlefield is shutting down anticheat when you close the game, that’s a small step above.
Oh I think they’re both at fault. Fuck EA/Battlefield for the SecureBoot requirement too.
In fact, fuck all games with kernel level anti-cheats.
Same here, I dropped League of Legends when they added it as a requirement. I can sorta deal with a kernel level anti-cheat if it only runs while the game is running, but an always on kernel level anti-cheat is a no go for me.
Valorant’s anticheat always runs in the background, even when the game isn’t booted. There’s a reason people call the game spyware.
but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
Maybe you’re virtualizing it for multiple users. Sure, that might sound like a weird thing to do, but that’s mostly because shit like this makes it harder than it ought to be.
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This is false and Eurogamer covered it already. You cannot run both at the same time, but both can be installed. The Valorant anti-cheat just cannot be active (it can be turned off at any time if it is running and requires a reboot before the game can be played if disabled).
https://www.eurogamer.net/you-cant-play-battlefield-6-and-valorant-at-the-same-time-heres-why
It should also be noted cheats can and have bypassed both BF6 and Valorants anti-cheat anyway.
Doesn’t matter I found bots and cheaters. Kernel level anticheat is nothing more than a security theater
Yep. There’s money to be made coding cheats. They’ll never be stopped.There’s absolutely no shortage of people willing to cheat and shit on other players. “giT gUd KiD, LeRn HoW tOo Aim!1!1!” I’ve got over 3k hours in BF2042 and easily the top 3-5 players give or take on either team are using some form of cheat, whether it be a Cronus or an actual software cheat, they’re obvious as hell. Like most fps games, they only keep the cheats to just enough of a minimum that they can delete cheat discussions from the forums and the community to lick the boot, “stfu hackusations!” One look at the leaderboards and showing hit%/time and the top 10-15% of players should all be banned.
If you consciously install a rootkit to play a game, you deserve whatever comes after.
In another article, I read that it happens when you have the Valorant launcher running – because it clashes with the kernel-level anticheat. Having it installed and closed shouldn’t cause any issues.
Low Level Learning had a good video about this: https://youtu.be/VtHlMTc8lR4
That’s weird- I played BF6 with friends I would expect would have Valorant installed. Nobody had any issues. Maybe they uninstalled at some point. I don’t exactly keep up with everyone’s library.
I’m confused. I thought the last mainline BF title was Battlefield 4? (And then after that came BF1, and then that failure BF2042.)
Did they skip a number, or was Battlefield 5 just so fucking bad that I blanked it from my memory? I honestly can’t tell. I haven’t enjoyed a Battlefield game since Bad Company 2.
5 came out between 1 and 2042, yes it was pretty bad, from what i recall.
My guess is that there’s something else going on because two of my friends play Valorant and had no problem playing it. They even played Valorant the day after the beta for Battlefield 6 ended.
This beta has been a whole clownfest.
Bold of you to assume anyone who has Valorant installed wants to play BF6
Just a reminder that Valorant is spyware
