Hello everyone! I have been de-googling my life for a few years. I don’t have official YouTube clients anymore. At this point I use PipePipe, a fork from New Pipe to watch videos.
But as a Spotify and YouTube Music replacement, I am currently using Outer Tune.
My problem is that with or without Proton VPN usage I get errors again and again. despite closing the app, switching off the VPN etc. At this point it’s impossible for me use Outer Tune any longer.
What are you using?
claryfication:
on the long run im looking to build a offline media vault. but for the moment. i want to use a Spotifiy alternative, where there are suggastions… for new music that i like.
i tried Rimusic a while ago can’t say why i find’t like it anymore.
i love making playlist offline with it and PipePipe is a dream but its not right for me for music
I love bandcamp. I wish I could put more music i bought into my collections though.
Not sure why nobody mentioned it yet, but I switched to Metrolist a while back when RiMusic/ViMusic stopped working. Never had to look back and never had issues so far.
RiMusic is still working fine for me
For real? ViMusic is archived since October '24… same goes for RiMusic which was archived… yesterday? Ok, I wasn’t even aware of that - last I knew was that it became a local-only client when the dev gave up fighting against the constant api changes on youtube side.
Anyhow, glad it somehow still works for you - it’s been a great app.
Hmm, OK. Guess I’ll probably have to switch soon then
I buy music from Amazon music, hd tracks or band camp it’s all drm free and put it on my server behind a subsonic based server . That’ll give you the closest to a streaming service. Otherwise just sync music on your phone old school.
How does subsonic compare against tools like jellyfin in your experience?
Jellyfin doesn’t seem to be as oriented towards music but will also work and many people use it for music
I use InnerTune with proton VPN (though I had to exclude it in the split tunneling setting) and all works just fine.
do you know the difference between Innertune and Outertune?
No idea unfortunately. But it looks to be a fork. Not sure if I tried it or not before I ended up using Innertune.
But I know these alternative Youtube frontends gave me issues with the VPN, had to exclude also Tubular in the split tunneling for it to work for me.
youtube-dl your songs.
Funkwhale may worth a look: https://www.funkwhale.audio/ I used for quite some time and was nice, the main issue was the unmaintained Android app.
I’ll get downvoted but to find music and have a tiny hair of privacy Apple Music may be efficient for the mainstream audience.
I download the audio that I like and store in a local server but I can’t expect every person in the world doing the same.
I’ve been loving Qobuz so far. Migrating our family was easier than I thought.
Plus it comes with a free music migration tool.
Qobuz distributed royalties due to labels and publishers corresponding to an average amount of US$0.01873 per stream
This means that Qobuz generates on average five times more revenue per user than the market average,
How much does Spotify pay per stream?
Spotify pays artists between $0.003 - $0.005 per stream on average.
That works out as an approx revenue split of 70/30 - so that’s 70% to the artist/rights holders and 30% to Spotify.
Apps that depend on ytmusic (like OuterTune) are not reliable, but you can try RiMusic, it works for me currently.
Plexamp with music stored on my homelab
youtube! newpipe just works fine with protonvpn.
Sabnzb + lidarr + jellyfin/finamp?
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If you have a NextCloud instance with NextCloud Music app installed you can use its Ampache or Subsonic API implementation with a client in your devices (I recommend Ampache as the implementation is a literal server clone).
If not, as other people suggested Funkwhale.
If you still depend on YT Music, there is RiMusic as a client but prolly will give you errors too after some time if your network is denylisted.
Could you please elaborate on your last sentence? What do you mean with “errors […] after some time if your network is denylisted”? I am using RiMusic and I indeed run into weird errors where the music stops in the middle.
Google adds extra safe-checks to networks which they consider suspicious automatically so you cannot scrape their websites that easy.
I’m using SoundCloud via the browser. I enjoy the suggestions, keeping things fresh.
For offline on mobile I use their app which does have an offline mode for your “Liked” songs and specific playlists.
If I wanted an offline library proper, I’d sail the high seas but I personally do not feel the need for it for now.
