• muhyb@programming.dev
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    -Why there are pyramids in Egypt?

    -Because Brits couldn’t moved them to British Museum.

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      To be fair. Most of the pyramids were raided far before the British took an interest and whatever they held has now been lost to time.

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      8 months ago
      how to write lists
      - Why there are pyramids in Egypt?
      - Because Brits couldn’t moved them to British Museum.
      

      renders to

      • Why there are pyramids in Egypt?
      • Because Brits couldn’t moved them to British Museum.

      Markdown guide is in the toolbar (?⃝) alongside a button for lists.

      Edit: Disregard. They were trying to do quotation dashes.

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        Well, that’s the reason why I didn’t write it like that. I wanted it to look like a dash, just like in novels.

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              Good question: for basic accessibility, structure should be conveyed, which adds

              when technologies support programmatic relationships, it is strongly encouraged that information and relationships be programmatically determined

              The web supports programmatic relationships through correct markup, so the technique using semantic elements to mark up structure applies, specifically by using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links or the markdown equivalent.

              If you want to experience this yourself, then put on a blindfold, use a screenreader & compare your “list” to mine.

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                I don’t have a screen reader installed so I cannot try it but I can guess how it can screw with it. However I agree with Monkey With A Shell here. It’s not realistic for all users to follow semantics, this can only be solved with a better software.

                While I use markdown daily, apparently there are still things I don’t know about it. Well, I mostly learn them when I need them but still. So, I could use (speech dash) instead of -, which I assume wouldn’t cause a problem with a screen reader. There is no way for me to remember its shortcut on the keyboard, but it seems Markdown already covered this with --- which ends up rendered as .

                Thanks for making me noticing about it, learned something new today.

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                  It’s not realistic for all users to follow semantics

                  Not realistic for users to write lists the normal way that doesn’t look wrong? I don’t know guys

                  -first
                  
                  -second
                  
                  -third
                  

                  looks obviously bad whereas

                  - first
                  - second
                  - third
                  

                  looks right. Then you see the rendered result in preview. You also had a button in the toolbar to create a list.

                  I don’t think this is asking much.

                  If you weren’t trying to write a list, though, then I don’t know what you were doing & I doubt a chat bot will either: could you link to an example of what you were trying to do? For all you know, I’m a chat bot not figuring out your intent. No technology is about to fix PEBKAC.

                  I think the bottom line is if you write lists normally, then everything else including accessibility will turn out right without you needing to understand the intricacies.

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                    8 months ago

                    I definitely wasn’t trying to write a list, it was a riddle or a conversation. What I was trying to do is this:

                    Though, it seems speech dash is not a thing in English. So I understand the confusion.