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In my time we didn’t paste LLM-generated code we barely understand and hoped it compiled, let alone work. We pasted code from stack overflow we barely understood and hoped it compiled and let alone work, as god intended.
God has no hand in programming. He’s just as confused as us.
Oh there’s definitely some elder gods involved with programming when I do it.
User Feedback, the Crawling Chaos, the Haunter of the Dark… I feel its tendrils of madness reaching for my mind even now. I am not ready for this. Ph’nglui mglw’nafh caffeine R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn! Iä! Iä!
Look at how shitty our implementation is. We need a full refactoring.
He still doesn’t understand how we got the rock to think
Now we’re still pasting code from stack overflow we don’t understand, we’re just getting it from an LLM
Yes, but did the LLM get it from the answers or the questions?..
Who knows, and furthermore, who cares?
Both, of course.
You’re young. Back in my day, we bought a book called “Advanced Algorithms for C vol. 3”, and we manually typed the code from it if it didn’t come with a CD.
When I was a kid I remember copying entire games in BASIC printed in popular science magazines. They never worked because my dads computer had a slightly different BASIC dialect.
Good times.
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I think the same people who run stackoverflow must run a ton of subs on reddit.
“Your post was removed because it uses “the” too much and doesn’t contain enough w’s and because the moon is in Pisces and it’s Saturday. If you think this was done in error please message the moderators.”
moderator shoots anyone as soon as they knock on their front door through a custom slot
They’re the same people posting articles saying how bad AI is while everybody else has fun using it
Nobody cares if you are “playing” with AI. The problem is companies like OpenAI stealing people’s work for training, and stealing their business using that stolen work for profit. Fair use stops at commercial interest and AI is nothing but commercial interest. It’s a layer cake of theft and unfair competition.
Don’t care, of all the problems in the world. You’re all making shit up to be mad about. Everybody gave their stuff up with or without AI. People were always scraping data and allowing it to be locked awa. Information brokers are not new. They have always sold our data. Nothing has changed.
I’m not bending over backwards to give a shit for people who have slept to the point that we arrived here with these issues, and now that we finally have something cool they’re up in arms because they think their stupid Garfield knockoff comic is the core competent to making AI powerfully profitable. I’d all for removing every content creator from the Internet. Scrub the whole fucking thing. They’re parasites
There is no openAI without content creators. It’s a derivative tool, so if some new tool/system comes out it’s not gonna know jack shit without the training data.
Now if your beef is with the content platforms, I completely understand that, but saying content creators should be removed, seems a bit myopic
I fully believe we lost the Internet due to content creators. Once PewDiePie made that first million it was all over. That moment is the point in our timeline where we veered into a very dark timeline instead of the good one. The other point was the Hanging Chad
I wouldn’t call stackoverflow reliable. It is only partly reliable, if you are lucky.
Thread closed because that’s a stupid question and you should feel bad about yourself.
I do. Let me delete my account and come back tomorrow with the same question.
Been there done that. Closed as duplicate.
On a serious note, last year I felt so pathetic after reading a comment on a question I posted on stackoverflow that I went over the edge and attempted suicide and like everything else I failed. Not saying that SO was responsible or anything. One guy pushed me over the edge, when I was already under a tremendous stress.
Glad to still have you here with us.
I really wish I could say the same. Depression sucks.
Not necessarily about stack overflow. But i just got myself in a situation where the first search result I found for a problem was clearly AI generated. And the solution it provided was not at all technically possible. The AI decline is really terrible…
That said, does anyone know of an extension or block list for those terrible AI slob websites? Or a way to filter it from duckduckgo?
This AI blocklist for uBlacklist and uBlock origin should help.
That’s for images though, not text content.
THAT is the problem… we cannot filter them out. The real enshitification of the web has barely began.
I understand it will be a cat and mouse game. But surely its possible to make a curated list of big offenders akin to advertisement block lists?
Good riddance. Whenever I search for a programming question I’d always hope for a) an official documentation page or, failing that, b) a page on a dedicated forum for the tool that I was using that covered the problem. I’d only ever click on SO links if I had no other choice.
And, of course, I’d never search for a problem on SO itself.
Eh, I hate its culture, but I regularly find useful excel or regex answers on StackExchange.
The LaTeX SE is also very useful. The official documentation of LaTeX and especially of third party packages, is often hard to read and it’s hard to find what you’re looking for. You can end up on the documentation on Overleaf,but they don’t go I to depth too much.
I hate that so many projects are moving from public support forums to fucking Discord channels. God forbid a tech project be expected to maintain a public indexable forum and website. You can’t search it unless you join the channel, it’s not well organized at all, and the invite link probably expired 3 months ago. Fuck you if you didn’t join while it still worked I guess.
SO used to be good, but they have this problem right down in their core concept that makes sure the content gets outdated fast.
And that’s the concept that every question can only be asked once.
That makes sure that everything gets outdated as soon as possible.
- Q: Can X be done in framework Y? (asked in 2012)
- A: No.
Now it’s 13 years later, and framework Y can do X since 5 years, but you can’t ask again, because your question will get closed as a duplicate to the outdated one from 2012. And since every time someone asked this question again in the last 13 years the question just got closed, google will just link you back to the question from 2012 claiming that framework Y can’t do X.
Anybody remember what it was like 16+ years ago when “most questions” hadn’t already been asked yet?
PS: lol https://web.archive.org/web/20090330211513/http://stackoverflow.com/
Yeah, that site was good before they started rejecting every useful question.
It used to be much better than anything else that came earlier. Nowadays the odds are even that you’ll find your answer on the experts-one.
I spent a lot of time there the first couple of years, mostly answering questions. I was in the top 20 or so of users for a while - I remember when Jon Skeet was right below me in the rankings and I thought “huh, I’ll show this guy”. I did not in fact show that guy. I’m still in the top .1% but I haven’t done anything there in almost a decade.
As a read-only SO user - thank you for your answers!
IMO, this would be more ironic if the post was closed automatically by a bot. But that’s not the vibe I’m getting from this.
Mods be thinking that if they dig SO’s grave deep enough it will emerge on the other side of the world.
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this is a crap question, glad it was closed
