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    Remember folks, if you pirate scientific papers you’re stealing from the hard working…wait a minute…

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    Academic Authors: $0

    FAKE NEWS

    This should be in the negatives. We have to pay to get papers published in these traditional journals.

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        Don’t forget the university libraries. Yup, researchers are paid by the university, those researchers pay the publishers to place their articles, the peer reviewers are also paid by the university. And then the university has to shell out money to the publishers, so the articles can be accessed.

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    and don’t use Sci-hub people. I am warning ⚠️ you so you can avoid it 🫡

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    New textbooks have disappearing ink that only lasts, about one semester, until a month before finals, and then in that month they trigger dynamic pricing increases due to a stronger than typical demand…

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      As of April 2021, PLOS One charges a publication fee of $1,745 to publish an article.

      I mean, seriously, I would like to publish to one of these, but who has the money to do that?

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      I have a stupid question but what are the costs of a journal like this? I mean, if they don’t pay the researchers and the reviewers, what do they do?

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    Reviewers and writers actually do get a stipend, but it’s a token amount like 200 bucks a year. This industry is the most ass backward incentive structure we could possibly create, the only reason writers would provide articles to a journal is literally for the clout.

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      Really? I’ve reviewed and published a good chunk of papers and never received any financial compensation.

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      I’ve never gotten a stipend or heard of someone getting a stipend for publishing or reviewing manuscripts. The only thing I’ve been offered is access to the journal.

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        Depends on the journal I guess, my wife worked at multiple publishers and there’s normally an insultingly small stipend for the editorial board members and writers

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      They all got bought up by venture capitalists like a decade or more more ago, and this is the result.

      They were already backward, but now they are backward, ruthless about cost cutting, and care about nothing but profits.

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      I’ve heard of some journals promising to pay their reviewers Amazon gift cards which they never end up sending out

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    As much as I’m against parasitic practices, I wonder how the inevitable corruption of money would (further) skew research if academia was well paid for their papers.

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      We’re not saying pay the authors a bunch, we’re saying make the papers free to read. Or at least don’t charge authors and readers both, while keeping all the money for yourself.

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      And I wonder how, not having the pressure to “succeed” research (to gain further grants), would increase the quality of said research.

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        I quit a physics phd path just under a decade ago because my experimental results were turning up negative and the uni I was at pushed me to doctor my results so we would keep getting funded. I also wonder about this

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    Why are we looking at revenue? We don’t know the operating costs. What are the profit margins?

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      According to Wikipedia, in 2022 Elsevier’s revenue was 2.909 billion pounds and their net income was 2.021 billion pounds.

      Not going to bother looking up the rest.