It’s so ironic how many downvotes this is getting in the context of this thread.

Fair enough

Languages evolve over time. The term “to serve” is derived from the Latin word for “slave”. That does not mean it’s somehow offensive to use the term to describe the job of soldiers.

The modern day “riced” comes from “R.I.C.E” which stands for “race inspired car enhancement”. If you rice a car, it means you put components that look like race car components but are actually just cosmetic. Fake vents, huge spoilers on family cars, exhausts that are optically bigger, etc. The orange Japanese car in the linked article is an example of that. 70s Japan had renown ricing culture so I guess that’s where the R.I.C.E and the racist “rice burner” split.

Nowadays people who use the term “riced” don’t even know that at some point in time it had something to do with Asian cars or bikes. It’s even common to jokingly associate it with the food with the same name to spite other car nerds because you can “um actually” bait someone to correct you that it has nothing to do with food. Which is obviously not true according to the article but if 99 % of people don’t know the racist origin, it’s not an issue at all to use the word.

I’ll quote Vaxry from his blog:

“Obviously, the fact that I am banned from contributing to Freedesktop - and by extension wlroots, is another big factor, and probably the one that finally tipped the scales, because I am no longer allowed to participate in discussion or contribute code to wlroots.”

https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2024-wlrootsRewrite

“I definitely am not a fan of how seemingly weak people online, especially teenagers, have become. Words are just words. Someone calling another person a “retard” shouldn’t really be a big deal.”

"I said:

if I run a discord server around cultivating tomatoes, I should not exclude people based on their political beliefs, unless they use my discord server to spread those views. which means even if they are literally adolf hitler, I shouldn’t care, as long as they don’t post about gassing people on my server

that is inclusivity

Which I definitely stand by."

https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2023-inclusiveActivists

It seems like the guy is being genuine here. Or was that pure PR?

And on that note, I condemn in the harshest terms the response from communities like /r/linux on the subject. The vile harassment and hate directed at the FDO officer in question is obscene and completely unjustifiable. I don’t care what window manager or desktop environment you use – this kind of behavior is completely uncalled for. I expect better.

Oh wow. That community is just hateful

While I use river as daily driver and am very happy with it, I feel people who like Hyprland will find river to be rather limited and barren in terms of looks and availability of plugins.

I’d say, read Hyprland’s responses linked elsewhere in this thread before making any hasty decisions.

It seems (but I’m not sure, to be clear), that it was a situation that got solved, and people are still hung up on it.

It’s like that “but you fuck one sheep” joke.

After this news I switched to using KDE with Karousel, an animation plugin, and a rounded corners plugin (kwin scripts).

I also use a command runner plasmoid to somewhat replicate waybar from shell scripts.

That looks awesome! Having used fvwm, I’m a fan of the scrollable desktop

I’ve been using swayfx, a fork of Sway with a little more eye candy.

I’m a fan of qtile. Used it when it was x11 only and use it on Wayland now.

I like niri, but I’ll be damned if I can get any kind of stability out of it. I’ll have myself a flawless time at home testing, but as soon as my laptop enters University Grounds it stops launching apps, or crashes, or whatever else.

Right now I’m using Gnome/PaperWM since Infinite horizontal has changed my workflow so dramatically, and Gnome is more stable for me.

River: https://codeberg.org/river/river

I wrote community, not user base.

The thing about Foss is that it’s typically community oriented. You are not only able to contribute and participate, but you’re invited to do so.

And if you’re an asshole and your community is toxic then who cares if your code is good? There are other projects I’d rather participate in. Cuz you’re not that good.

Please note that many users of FOSS are also developers or contributors. Who wants to report a bug or send a patch if the community is worse?

If it’s great tool and FOSS why not use it? You use software, not people.

I didn’t write about its user base, I wrote about its community – the cesspool that engages among each other. That said, the moment someone opens a bug report, there’s a real chance that person gets harassed.

Since this change is entirely a result of the bad behavior of the maintainer and would not have happened otherwise, this a perfect example of why we fundamentally cannot separate the work from the people who make it.

Even if you do not agree with the social backlash this person is getting, that backlash has real effects on the work.

I, for one, no longer trust that hyprland will remain a well-maintained piece of software given that the maintainer would rather increase their maintenance burden and diverge from using common tools instead of cooperating with the community.

Being a good dev doesn’t mean being a good person

Being a good dev doesn’t justify being a bad person either.

This wm is dead to me.

Just looked into this drama because I had no idea what the fuck was going on, and MAJOR YIKES

Nice job on not adding nothing relevant other than “(Folks that doesn’t like the same stuff as I do) are (buzzwords).” – you are not better than em.

Do you have examples of this? Not being contrarian, I actually run Hyprland myself. I’m just curious where the limitations of wlroots have been.

competing standards