I don’t live in a place without PSN, however I uninstalled because of the malware style anticheat files that a small update tried to sneak into my system. Fuck off Arrowhead and Sony both, no thanks, I don’t need to jnstall that kind of stuff to enjoy games with my friends on PC.
Idk why they even need anticheat in a PVE game lol
Only reason I can think of is to sell MTX boosts for xp or currency, like Activision does in COD
I guess acknowledging the problem is the first step.
I think they knew they would get backlash and factored that in.
He didn’t say anything like “I hear your concerns and we will look into them”
That’s because there’s nothing he can do - this was Sony’s decision as the publisher and the developers can’t do squat about it unfortunately
I just want to make great games!
(And I can’t do that without money from big publishers and without installing anti-cheat on your PCs)
I am probably completely wrong and this is just my opinion but an indie game dev that sells out to any of the shit companies, isn’t really in it for the love of games, they want money.
The love of games doesn’t tend to feed your family and children.
Then don’t act coy about wanting to make games as if that’s the driving force behind you being CEO of a studio.
Be honest and say "yeah, we have contractual obligations and this is one of them, sucks that they are mismanaging it but we have to abide by it because they gave us a bajillion dollars, and we gotta keep the lights on. Hopefully they’ll change their minds.”
The reality is that they mismanaged this severely, they should have either held off the launch or made it abundantly clear that this was temporary and it would have been mandatory in a few months, not whatever the fuck this was.
And it should have never been possible for people in non-psn countries to buy the game in the first place.
Then don’t act coy about wanting to make games as if that’s the driving force behind you being CEO of a studio.
Buddy, you need to grow up; unless you’re a trust fund baby, nobody gets to dedicate a significant amount of their life to doing anything without also finding a way of making money at it. Trying to create a fun game, and running out of money halfway through development, and having to layoff all your friends and cocreators, gets nobody anywhere.
Be honest and say "yeah, we have contractual obligations and this is one of them, sucks that they are mismanaging it but we have to abide by it because they gave us a bajillion dollars, and we gotta keep the lights on. Hopefully they’ll change their minds.”
That is basically verbatim what he has said.
The reality is that they mismanaged this severely, they should have either held off the launch or made it abundantly clear that this was temporary and it would have been mandatory in a few months, not whatever the fuck this was.
The reality is that Sony probably didn’t care until Helldivers was a massive success and they’ve suddenly started caring.
That is basically verbatim what he has said.
Very far from that.
The reality is that Sony probably didn’t care until Helldivers was a massive success and they’ve suddenly started caring.
We need people to not just state something like that, but hate such decisions by default and act whenever possible. Just like with any other issue involving caring about minorities. Every customer who bought your game deserves the same regardless of where they live and how much the paid you.
There are plenty of indie devs that haven’t sold out to ea/meta/Microsoft/etc and are perfectly able to feed their families.
And there are plenty who have failed and declared bankruptcy.
Haha. Regain trust. You lost people gaming because of that PSN account linkage. Those people are not playing anymore. How will a continued great game experience regain their trust?
In a week. The changes aren’t coming for a week. Nobody has quit because of the changes, they are quitting because they heard about an upcoming change they had the opportunity to read about on all primary storefronts the game is available on, excepting humble.
Certified bootlicker in every one of your comments.
Helldivers will never be what it was from now on, shame I missed that train. Specially considering it’s now essentially a free Steam refund (if you insist past the automated responses).
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This is why live service games are bad
Not sure about the consumer laws where you live but it might be possible that you can return it when you cannot use it anymore because of this
It is likely that the countries with the best consumer protection laws are among the ones served by PSN because those tend to be policies enacted by richer countries.
Steam support might just do it anyway if you describe the situation.
I don’t really understand the hype behind helldivers. To my eye, borderlands is essentially the same game but with greater variety, fewer hiccups, and a lower price.
Interesting take. Do you also think of Mario Kart and Forza Horizon to be the same game?
I mean, more midnight club vs need for speed but I take your meaning. And yes, aside from the stories and one having significantly more content, they’re essentially the same game. I’d have said battlefront 2, but I don’t respect the remake and fishing out multiple ps2s to play online is preposterous.
Well, I appreciate the honesty. Have an upvote.
Very different games to me tbh. Squad pve with gun focused combat, but thats where the similarities end. Borderland is crunchy with tons of guns stats and special movesin a RPG open world with a set narrative to go through.
Helldivers has a way smaller arsenal and a tighter mission based combat loop. They have more of a meta narrative that you affect vs being the main protags. The tighter gameplay loop is probably the biggest reason I liked it but haven’t play borderlands in forever. Like its very much built for dropping in blowing up your friend and maybe some enemies too, try to do objectives against mounting odds, pass or fail the mission, continue. The fact that weapon progress almost always makes friendly fire a even bigger threat makes it almost a trade off and not a clear path to success.
“Oh no, this seems to be bad for everyone. Too bad there’s nothing we can do about it!” Says CEO with enough control and influence to reverse the policy.
Clearly not the case
Their publisher decided it. And it’s probably in the contract. Apparently it was originally a requirement, but was made skippable when there were login issues.
The only thing they proved by making ot skippable is that it wasnt even necessary at all. The reason they’re giving for making it mandatory ( for security and being able to ban for griefing ) is bullshit. Not to mention They’re already using a super invasive anti cheat, which apparently isn’t capable of catching any cheaters.
Back pedaling PR.
Morons.
What should they do in your opinion? Remember this is a Sony decision Arrowhead have no power over.
Give people full refunds.
They put themselves in this position and now they are going to eat shit for it.
The only chance they have at not pissing everyone off is offering full refunds. It won’t happen tho because of corporate greed.
What they should have done was not jump into bed with the enemy (Sony).
Sony required the PSN account, which Arrowhead didn’t enforce. Clearly they didn’t want it either. Until Sony forced them to enforce it. Arrowheads mistake was not enforcing it the entire time. They tried to be the good guys by ignoring the Sony requirement and when this was no longer possible ended up with an apparent bait and switch. If they just listened to Sony and required it the entire time, they wouldn’t get into this situation.
So yes, they should give refunds.
