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I’d rather have a copper spear than a steel sword. Swords are small and weak. Spears are long and powerful.
And the stone age was loooong
The copper age only lasted about 1000 years. Then came the bronze age. But the iron has been going on for longer than the bronze age and copper age combined.
I suspect a large part of it was the collapse of civilization, at least, in that corner of the world.
“we’re in a late stage bronzist society, it’ll collapse any day now!”
so, caught an article on NPR where they were interviewing an archeologist who specialized in the Sea Peoples (and the bronze age collapse). In any case, there were some points he made that stuck with me. The most pointed being that, the collapse during the bronze age (for those that lived in it,) wouldn’t have known it was happening.
It was slow, happened across generations. while the climate change and other factors was inexorably moving to collapse… the changes weren’t fast enough for people to notice, it was just the way things were their entire life.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call “foreshadowing”.
I believe bronze and iron weapons are equally powerful, but bronze is a mixture of copper and tin (requiring two types of input). Iron is more plentiful than tin, so militaries do not need large supplies of tin if they can manipulate iron. Steel, I believe, needs much higher temperatures and purified inputs.
Nope. Not at all. Steel weapons are superior to bronze in every way.
The comparison was iron and bronze. Not steel and bronze.
There was never a time when iron was used in a major way until they figured out how to make steel. So technically it was always the steel age, not the iron age.
Bronze is better at making musical instruments, and who doesn’t need a trumpet or a tuba nowadays?
While iron is more plentiful than tin, it is harder to purify than tin or copper. The ‘iron age’ refers to the time when humans started smelting iron, and making tools using various steels and other iron-based alloys. These are generally much stronger than bronze.
Iron, like actual iron, is weaker than bronze. IIRC, tensile strength is copper<iron<bronze<steel, by roughly x2.
I just posted something about ‘classified ads’ in newspapers and someone asked what classified ads are.
A 30 year old posted that he now felt old after reading that question.
It’s where we put classified information because the kids won’t read news papers!
I had some 50 year old bartender try to be condescending with me saying i probably didn’t know how to use a dial phone. Showed her up by explaining my aunt used to have a Princess phone and had to explain that one to her
I just realized “dialing a number” comes from turning a dial.
Dial phones are the WEIRDEST thing to feel superior over. As a gimmick they’re fun, as something to be used, they’re annoying as fuck. Imagine dialing a 9 digit number with those things… (Also imagine calling someone in this day and age without a gun pointing to your head)
You can actually tell hiw important an area was by the area code. If it was somewhere people called often, they would have low numbers, while bumfukc nowhere gets high numbers that take for ever to dial.
Really showing your age, there, Dagwood.
What’s a newspaper?
What is love?
wtf is a pennysaver
Those, uh, those are advertisements for classified materials, yes?
What kind of newspapers are you reading?
(/jk. I’m old enough to have read the comic section)
And yet we still haven’t figured out nuclear swords smh.
Give it about 38k years
Best I can do is a flail.
Damn, every time I think I’m original or clever today, someone beats me to it.
I was just thinking of “demon core on a warhammer/shield/trebuchet (not a catapult because that’s for plebs)”
Small point of pedantry, that is a flail, not a mace. A mace is mounted directly onto a handle, flails have the flexible material between the weight and the handle.
I just happened to have the exact best response possible pic saved recently enough that I could find it in my phone. 🤣 This makes my whole day!
Fixed it for you.
Demon core memes are my favorite thing from NCD and literally nobody else in my life even knows what it is, let alone think they’re funny.
It’s the same with Ea-Nasir memes.
Is there a lemmy community about it?
NonCredibleDefense, not sure which instance it’s on, but they hit all on the regular.
You’re not alone, you’re together through time with so many others past and future. None of us are going to put up with repeatedly subpar copper ever again.
That would be a Jedi lightsaber. I can’t remember which YT channel calculated the amount of energy in those little bastards but I think it was about a small nuclear recator
I know this isn’t the comparison being made, but I love the idea of jumping straight from swords to nukes. Writing prompt: a 16th century blacksmith suddenly realizes, “If I surround an unstable rock with a neutron reflecting earth metal, I can trigger a runaway chain reaction that’ll get that stump outta me yard.”
It’s probably a narrow demographic that immediately recognizes Yahoo Serious, isn’t it? Especially in the northern hemisphere.
I’m in the Southern hemisphere so right in my neighborhood 😁
What the fuck is this from lol
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0096486/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
Movie called Young Einstein
Ahh thank you!
Silly meme. Nuclear bombs are much too heavy to wield on the battlefield, and their shape is unsuitable for piercing platemail armour
If only I had some sort of mechanical machine that would lob this 300 kg nuclear bomb 90 m away at my enemy. One day science will catch up to man’s dreams, one day…
Nuke hurling trebuchets are an underexplored fantasy tech.
To be safe, make it a 90kg nuclear bomb 300m away!
They just have to make small adjustments
Also gamma radiation is good at “piercing” platemail armour.
What about uranium armour tho?
So dividing by four again will surely give us the timetable for how soon we can expect a planet buster to be developed to harvest Mercury’s raw material to build a Dyson fleet
I wonder if there’s research out there into the hottest temperature humanity can reach throughout history? So many things that advance technology depend on getting even hotter. With a simple wood fire, you can cook food to make it safer to eat and get more nutrients out of it. With a better design and fuel to get hotter, you can work copper, or glass, or steel. Hotter still and you can fuse atoms.
what were they doing for all that time
dying of dysentery
They’ll say the same thing about us. We could start building a utopia right now.
Utopia relies on greed not existing
Technology relies on information being passed down
Playing Copper and Bronzers.
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Is there a statistic for estimated energy consumption per capital against time available?
The gamer switched from the “Aeon” mod to “quick game” pace
Preps sophon on another planet
