• ramble81@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    If land bugs were as meaty and tasty I’d be eating them too.

  • OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    A family member has bit, hook, line and sinker. Om the great reset conspiracy theory. He says Bill Gates wants to force us to eat bugs. I respond “You love shrimp?”. He states its different I don’t see the difference…

    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Bill Gates came to my house last night with a gun and a plate of cockroaches.

      He told me if I didn’t eat it he would shoot my family and shoot me last.

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        2 years ago

        Listen, he should’ve at least offered to kill you first. That’s the problem with billionaires these days; no honor.

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      The difference is that shrimp are delicious? Last time you got a bug in your mouth what was your instinctive response?

      The great reset is bogus but there’s definitely a “conspiracy” to get us to eat bugs… A boring, capitalist conspiracy. Just the next step in the race to the bottom, another cheap and low quality food that the unwashed masses can afford to keep them alive and trudging off to work.

      I will eat bugs when I see the billionaires have them on their plates.

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        2 years ago

        Fuck billionaires, if eating bugs is delicious and cuts emissions from factory farming, I’m in. The environment doesn’t fit into some dick measuring contest with the rich and they don’t decide my moral position.

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          That’s the problem, it isn’t delicious. That’s why they keep coming up with schemes to use them as a protein additive, like “cricket flour”.

          I raise lamb free range on pasture, no inputs other than grass, and that’s what I’ll be eating for the foreseeable future. Let me tell you, that’s delicious.

          I would encourage anyone else concerned about factory farming to find a small producer, most of us will gladly even give you a tour and let you see our herds, we love to show off healthy animals on green grass. And we’re often cheaper than the supermarket these days, no greedy middlemen to mark it up.

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            That’s the problem, it isn’t delicious. That’s why they keep coming up with schemes to use them as a protein additive, like “cricket flour”.

            I’ve actually had a bunch of delicious insect based dishes, if you’re open minded about it they aren’t all that hard to find. Asian cooking is where they’re at.

            I raise lamb free range on pasture, no inputs other than grass, and that’s what I’ll be eating for the foreseeable future. Let me tell you, that’s delicious.

            That’s cool, I grew up raising steer and sheep, I’m also aware of the environmental issues. I also still eat them although I’ve cut it down drastically.

            I would encourage anyone else concerned about factory farming to find a small producer, most of us will gladly even give you a tour and let you see our herds, we love to show off healthy animals on green grass. And we’re often cheaper than the supermarket these days, no greedy middlemen to mark it up.

            I personally know many small producers, slaughter and dress my own meat, and I still think that, environmentally consciously, we should all switch to a mostly plant based diet and explore meat alternatives without fear.

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              I still think that, environmentally consciously, we should all switch to a mostly plant based diet and explore meat alternatives without fear.

              I don’t have an issue with this statement, in fact I have friends who grow beans and lentils and I cook and eat dry beans every day in addition to my lamb. Plant proteins are healthy and delicious, and they easily stand alongside other standard dishes on our plates. Everyone I know eats a lot of beans.

              My issue with the bugs is the same as I have with soy protein. Soy protein has been snuck into all manner of processed foods to boost protein numbers while replacing the higher quality proteins that you would expect in those foods (i.e. many cheap chicken breasts are injected with a solution of salt water and soy protein to plump them up and make you think you got more “chicken”)

              I feel like using insects this way just is another step in adulterating our food supply, separating those like you and me who know what we are eating from the “commoners” who will not.

              I have no problem with explicitly eating bugs outright if you choose to, I just don’t want to have them snuck into my hamburger at a restaurant.

              Interestingly my ex-wife was from Taiwan and had never eaten insects except as a novelty - so it must be a different part of Asia where it’s common. Taiwan tends to like fish, pork and chicken as well as tofu and black beans.

  • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 years ago

    Fun lobster fact: They used to feed lobster to prisoners in Massachusetts because they were considered unclean animals since they crawled along the ocean floor and nobody else would eat them.

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    2 years ago

    Recently, we were in the canteen at work and a colleague, who moved here a few years ago, told that she never had rhubarb before.

    Then she asked me, probably just for vocab reasons: Rhubarb is a vegetable?

    Uhh…

    I had never thought about it. I mean, what the heck is this:

    Could be a salad, a leafy green. It’s kind of similar to celery, but is celery even a vegetable? Well, and of course, rhubarb is often used like a fruit, so uh…

    Well, I looked it up, and scientifically, it does count as a vegetable, but colloquially, it’s often considered a fruit.

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      Like today’s computer scientists, early biologists sucked at inventing new words, and simply reused existing ones. “Berry” in common language is a small, usually sweet and edible, fruit. Strawberries, blueberries, blackberries and raspberries are all berries.

      Then biologists came along and decided, actually, strawberries, raspberries and blackberries are out, but watermelon and bananas are in, because the size of the fruit doesn’t matter, only the placement of the seeds decides whether something is a proper, scientific berry.

      A similar thing has happened with “fruit” and “vegetable”, where scientific fruits include cucumbers, eggplants, and pumpkins. Luckily, all three of these are also berries.

      I say we ignore them, and use words to mean sensible things.

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      2 years ago

      I’ve never had rhubarb. I’ve heard it’s sweet (people make pies out of it), but it looks like celery, which is one of my most hated foods. What does it actually taste like? Is it palatable raw?

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        Rhubarb is actually really sour. As in, if you eat too much of it, your teeth will start feeling as if they’re covered in fur, because it genuinely fucks with your enamel. (Rhubarb contains oxalic acid, which is also used in some tooth whitening products).

        But it’s basically never eaten without adding a boatload of sugar to it. So, you can kind of imagine it like those sour sweets, but stronger, and of course, it’s a plant, so the taste is somewhat richer (although still not very rich for a plant).

        As for eating it raw, well, then you can’t really add sugar to it, so basically not palatable. I mean, you can do it, but unless you really like sour, it’s just not good.

        And it’s only really similar to celery in terms of its texture and crunch. The taste is completely different.

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        2 years ago

        If you’re allergic to shellfish, there’s a high chance that you’re also allergic to insects

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            I’m legitimately curious- why do you think the above claim is bullshit? To me, the fact that both shellfish and insect carapaces are made of chitin makes it seem reasonable that they would trigger similar allergic reactions, but I wonder if that’s not the case?

            Edit: I looked it up, it’s a protein called tropomyosin and it is carried by some crickets, along with other bugs like cockroaches.

            I found an article here

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              Oh sorry. Non native speaker here and learned a new phrase. I’m sure the chitin could have a protein structure causing allergic reactions to those who never got exposed to it when they were young

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                No worries! I figured out its not chitin- who knew that mushrooms had that too??

                I thought you were saying you didn’t believe that there can be shared allergies between shellfish and insects, to which my brain said “wait, they’re made of the same thing”. For your reference, English speakers “call bullshit” on one another when they think someone is lying, hence my curiousity.

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    2 years ago

    You refuse to eat bugs because they are “disgusting and gross”

    I refuse to eat bugs because I love them too much. We are not the same.

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    2 years ago

    Crawfish are literally called mud bugs in a lot of places. I think lobsters and langoustines should also be under the bug umbrella.

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    I have a very open view towards food that is served to me (in good faith). If you honor me by serving me a meal you enjoy I will eat it, whatever it is. If you serve me live cockroaches while laughing I’m not going to say what I’d do, bad faith gets bad actions. But I never choose to eat shrimp unless they’re served to me. I ate some last week unfortunately. In context, it wasn’t terrible.

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    I’ll eat crawdads all day. But the WEF can keep their crickets.