I have this unpopular thought: If I had to choose between Canonical’s Snap Store and Apple App Store…
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It always takes a disaster before corporations act.
I can recommend a minty flavored alternative if you’re sick of it.
Green Ubuntu is Best Ubuntu
A fresh breath of minty cinnamon, mate?
I prefer some POP in my ubuntu, but green is flavorful.
I like it across the road a bit more, you know, the fedora shop
You mean Ubuntu MATE?
No, I do not
I’m using Mint and new to it. Does the Mint app store have more security or scrutiny? I’m cautious as most things are lucky to have one or two reviews listen. Many are zero though and it’s not quite clear to me yet how to tell if things are from an official source or if they had review.
Packages are usually not official but maintained by your distro, so there are pretty strict controls, especially on Linux Mint Debian edition. Flatpaks on the other hand come from flathub and are less controlled, but since they’re sandboxed the security is still good. If you open the website you can see which apps are verified (official) and which aren’t. Flatpaks also have more user reviews in the most cases
I recommend Debian. Why go downstream when you can go upstream?
I’ve heard all the arguments about how these new packaging formats are supposed to make things easy for developers and for users with different use cases than my own (apparently), but I will continue to avoid them until they have further matured. I’m relieved that this is still possible.
The idea is good I think but the implementation has only ever caused me problems and seems to have a bunch of frustrating edge cases.
I’ve been using snaps for a few years now and while they still could use some improvements, the snaps I’m currently using seem to be fairly indistinguishable from deb-based packaging thanks to bug fixes they have done over the years. I think the idea of containerized applications is a good one, I think it actually can be safer. Performance is also fine for me with snap applications even like Firefox snap startup speed, although I’m using an R9 5900x and Gen 4 M2 NVMe SSD so maybe that’s why, or maybe they really have improved the snap software and it is just as fast now for the most part.
I’ve had to swap Firefox on my laptop for the deb package, the snap took like 5sec to open, whereas the deb opens instantly. Other than that, i don’t see much of a difference, but i run into sandboxing issues quite often (same with flatpak though)
I had a “Save As” issue in Firefox snap where it just wouldn’t be able to save pages, but since upgrading to either Ubuntu 20.04 or 22.04 (can’t remember which version fixed it), that problem has gone away entirely.
The problem for me is portability. Flatpak, Snap, Appimage, docker, podman, lxc, they all do the same thing, but they’re splitting the market into “servers” and “desktops”.
We need a portable container runtime we can build from a compose file, run cli or gui apps, and migrate to a server with web app capability displaying the UI. There are too many build targets, and too much virtual market segmentation.
Nix tries to solve the issue, but the problem is you have to use Nix.
True. Actual package managers are still thousands of times superior to flat and snap.
How is that not a security theater? , you just need to :
- publish a good snap
- change it to malware after it is approved
- profit
The extra cost added to override this is fairly small, i don’t think it will help.
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Then I’ll be on the last deb until it no longer works. I’m not going down the proprietary snap route.
Maybe it’s just me, but I doubt this will be very effective.
I’m glad to see that teststeve5 passed the test!
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Can you use snaps with autofs/NFS yet?
Just remove the crypto bullshit apps and 99% of the problems will go away.
And maybe release the SnapStore code so they can all scam each other over there.
Just because you don’t like a kind of software doesn’t mean it has no place