• Final RemixEnglish
    8•1 year ago

    I’d read a piece that even just having a camera present has the same effect.

  • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    80•1 year ago

    I think the meme is just poking fun at the physics behind the whole thing, but in case anyone doesn’t know:

    It’s called the observer effect, and it happens because:

    This is often the result of utilizing instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner.

    And particularly in the double-slit experiment:

    Physicists have found that observation of quantum phenomena by a detector or an instrument can change the measured results of this experiment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)

    So for anyone who wants to have a surface understanding of the observer effect, the wiki does a fair job of the basic explanation.

    • niftyEnglish
      5•1 year ago

      You need to qualify that statement somehow, or maybe give a citation or source that supports such an idea

        • niftyEnglish
          2•1 year ago

          Thanks for sharing, I’ll take a look when I get a chance!

          • K0W4L5K1English
            1•1 year ago

            Thanks for being open minded and at least looking at the data before you draw your conclusion

        • @bunchberry@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0•10 months ago

          Both these figures are embarrassingly bad.

          Hoffman confuses function for perception and constantly uses arguments demonstrating things can interpret reality incorrectly (which is purely a question of function) in order to argue they cannot perceive reality “as it is.,” which is a huge non-sequitur. He keeps going around promoting his “theorem” which supposedly “proves” this yet if you read his book where he explains his theorem it is again clearly about function as his theorem only shows that limitations in cognitive and sensory capabilities can lead something to interpret reality incorrectly yet he draws a wild conclusion which he never justifies that this means they do not perceive reality “as it is” at all.

          Kastrup is also just incredibly boring because he never reads books so he is convinced the only two philosophical schools in the universe are his personal idealism and metaphysical realism, which the latter he constantly incorrectly calls “materialism” when not all materialist schools of thought are even metaphysically realist. Unless you are yourself a metaphysical realist, nothing Kastrup has ever written is interesting at all, because he just pretends you don’t exist.

          Metaphysical realism is just a popular worldview in the west that most Laymen tend to naturally take on unwittingly. If you’re a person who has ever read books in your life, then you’d quickly notice that attacking metaphysical realism doesn’t get you to idealism, at best it gets you to metaphysical realism being not a coherent worldview… which that is the only thing I agree with Kastrup with.