No, one company isn’t ‘forcing’ diversity into all your favorite video games

  • vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    Motherfuckers need real struggle in their lives if this is the shit they’re wasting their time on. Art will be diverse, always has been. Get the fuck over yourself and move on to something that caters to whatever bullshit narrative you need to wake up everyday and be an ignorant piece of shit. I mean, the Bible is a work of fiction that’s been whitewashed with a cracker ass jesus, how about we start there?

    Apologies for the rant, I usually have this type of nonsense filtered outta my feed.

    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      2 years ago

      These are people who rely on “I may be a piece of shit, but at least I’m not (minority group)” to get through their day and not have to try to be a better person. If minority groups get treated as well as “normal” people there will be no one for them to look down on!

      • vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works
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        2 years ago

        Man, I hadn’t even thought about that. Valid point.

        I hope they get to truly enjoy their experience of being a white male minority soon! Maybe that’ll help with the empathy some day.

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          I hope they get to truly enjoy their experience of being a white male minority soon!

          The main reason that scares them is that they are worried that if they become a minority they will be treated the same way that they have been treating minorities.

          • vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works
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            2 years ago

            I have no doubts about that. It’s a sentiment I hear echoed all the time in the smaller PNW town I live in. How can someone possibly have freedoms and equality unless it’s taken from someone else.

  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Anyone else sometimes get sideways glances from people when they tell others that video games are a big hobby you enjoy? Yeah, dumbass shit like this whole saga is why.

  • fsxylo@sh.itjust.works
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    Ignoring the controversy for a second, I do think your writing is going to be shit if you outsource it, it just screams “I don’t give a fuck, let some intern I can’t even supervise do it”. So while this company isn’t egregious per se, the fact it exists and there’s a demand for it spells a bigger issue with the industry.

    • __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 years ago

      If you don’t have the talent internally, you hire someone else to do it. Is it shit to hire someone to make the music? To make the engine? Why is the writing different?

      • fsxylo@sh.itjust.works
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        If I don’t have the talent, I’d hire the talent and work with them directly. Not hire some firm and tell them “yes we need to maximize the player engagement portfolio metric synergized meta narrative systems” and whatever other corporate words I could fit in.

        Which is specifically what my post was criticizing, unless you’re going to try to tell me that doesn’t happen.

        • geekwithsoul@lemm.ee
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          So you’d hire a full time employee while paying for a recruitment process, on-boarding, and then full pay and benefits to help write a game that may take three years to complete and may never actually be completed or released and may never receive a sequel. Oh and your next project might not be suitable for their skills. Genius! Can’t wait to see what games your gaming company releases!

          Hell, why stop there - Every Hollywood movie studio should also just hire a bunch of in-house writers and have them write everything. You think movies are bland and unoriginal now - just you wait! And why do book publishers work with so many different authors? They should just hire 12 or so and have them write everything? 🙄

            • geekwithsoul@lemm.ee
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              2 years ago

              “Most indie companies” neither hire consultants nor add a bunch of full time employees - they don’t have the money for it. At first I was thinking you just didn’t understand how games are made, but now I’m thinking you don’t understand how general business works.

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    It doesn’t matter. These angry idiots have a narrative, and no amount of polite talking is going to convince them they were assholes.

    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      No, but it does explain to everyone else who is wondering “why are people upset about SBI?”

      “Oh just a bunch of bigots chasing their next outrage. Best to have nothing to do with them.”

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    In this thread:

    “How dare they ask the company what it does. The headline must be written first because it’s what I read first.”

    “If we assume the problem doesn’t exist, then why is there a solution?”

    “Artists seeking consultation sounds like censorship. Especially if they recommend it to other artists!”

    “The only reason you’d try to avoid offending people is so you can have sex at them.”

    Yeah can’t imagine why these companies have people check their work now.

  • otp@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    I’ve wondered what the term was for someone who acts like an incel, but might have had sex at one point or another. I guess it’s “anti-woke”, or whatever they’re calling themselves now.

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    I spoke with several employees of Sweet Baby Inc. to learn what the company actually does and how the misunderstanding of its role in the industry highlights a far broader problem.

    You don’t know what Sweet Baby Inc. does, but you assume the people complaining about SBI must be incorrect? Do journalists in any other sector of the market fall all over themselves rushing to defend companies like they do in game development?

    • __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The alternative is believing everything without confirming anything, do you think that’s better?

      Isn’t it weird how your mom keeps having sex with your opponents in call of duty?

    • xionzui@sh.itjust.works
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      The first thing in the sentence is literally them learning about what the company does, directly from the source. Who exactly do you think is more qualified to comment on it? Random internet users with no relation to the industry?

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    2 years ago

    upper echelon did a good piece on this

    Edit: noticing a few down votes, if clicking on the video and seeing “woke” as the video image is off putting then please notice its in quotations.

    As for the content, well informed about the industry and how esg rating system has lead to check boxing. The video is not saying to avoid inclusivity in vedeo games it is however saying that company’s are riding on inclusivity to make money and they’re doing so in a lazy way that doesnt seem to help the cause.

  • Throwaway@lemm.eeBanned
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    They literally threaten and extort companies into paying them. That’s just from their own employees tweets.

    I’m honestly surprised that the government hasn’t noticed their extortion racket.

  • Demigod787@lemmy.world
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    It’s still a safer bet to avoid whatever they consult on, they’ve an eye for trash writing and they thrive on “fixing” that. And companies that hire them are just out there to make a quick buck rather than creating a good story, experience or game.