As far as I can tell this basically means that all apps must be approved by Apple to follow their “platform policies for security and privacy” even if publishing on a third party app store. They will also disable updating apps from third party app stores if you stay outside the EU for too long (even if you are a citizen of an EU country, with an Apple account set to the EU region).
The idea that preventing app updates is in line with their claims of protecting security is utterly absurd. “Never attibute to malice what can be explained with stupidity,” but Apple isn’t stupid.
What boggles my mind is that the level of sandboxing displayed in Apple’s App Store is not really interpretable to me.
I also see something like “the developers indicated they do not collect sensitive information.” Yeah, but why would they indicate otherwise if they were malicious parties?
Probably, the only way to get sort of assurance is to choose an open source project, but App Store doesn’t guarantee that the code on Github matches the app in the Store.
but App Store doesn’t guarantee that the code on Github matches the app in the Store
This is why I like fdroid. They insist on building the app themselves, ensuring that it does indeed match what’s on github. Now you need to trust only fdroid to do the right thing. Then again, if they do something bad, someone will recognize it.
You upload the binary to the App Store, and as a part of the release process they may inspect the binary to figure out what it’s doing.
They of course don’t do that for everything as it’s a bit complicated to do for everything, but it can be an effective means to for example figure out when an app is calling an API in a prohibited manner.
if staying outside EU
I’m pretty sure this is explicitly not allowed because most of the EU laws apply to EU citizens and residents. So if an EU citizen stays outside the EU they aren’t allowed to stop following the EU rules.
Well, the EU will probably make them actually comply, as this is obviously not complying.
People, if this is important to you and you’re of voting age in Europe, the elections are in June! Register and vote for a party that wants to shove their middle fingers into big corpos faces.
This is what’s somewhat surprising. If they followed most of the rules, and went a bit off on a few, no one would be as upset and it might even work. Now, I have a feeling the EU is going to be VERY clear about the rules and they aren’t going to be in Apple’s favour at all.
“Never attibute to malice what can be explained with stupidity,”
With corporations I feel like the opposite should apply.
Hate that phrase. Great way to excuse malice.
There is an ‘adequately’ missing. It somewhat counters the excuse of malice.
If you can’t adequately attribute it to stupidity it has to be malice (or at least negligence).
Yeah, that’s the more thorough version. My interpretation of the quote was to first search for stupidity, if only to confirm it is not in fact stupidity (but malice).
Not so much, it’s more about how desperately stupid people (and companies) can be
A lot of people don’t like to think about just how much malice is involved in everyday life.
For corporations it is, “Never attribute to malice what can be explained by greed.”
For a lot of corporations, malice and greed are pretty much the same thing. When a business decision is justified by “Who cares? Do it anyway.” the distinction is a matter of words, not actions.
The corporation doesn’t love you, nor does it hate you. But you possess economic value, which could be made to belong to the corporation’s shareholders.
Apple users will accept anything Apple does to them. In their eyes, Apple can do no wrong. They will defend this all the mental hoops they have available.
I’d like to see Apple hurt, but somehow, I want to see its users hurt even more. They willingly buy these products and even defend them. Things should just get so bad that even the most devout Apple user questions Apple. No idea how bad it has to get, but I’d be very curious to find out.
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I don’t think you’ll find a lot of Microsoft love around these parts either lol
Are you having trouble with the “users” part? Would you like an
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The problem is that Apple doesn’t accept the responsibility. it’s the DMA that’s doing this to their customers, not Apple. By vilifying the DMA as harmful to privacy and security, Apple gets to make themselves out to be the good guy. When things get worse, Apple can just blame the DMA again.
The DMA was written in good faith. Apple is acting in bad faith. And yes, their customers are too simple minded to think for themselves, which is exactly why Apple can say stuff like “DMA bad” and have millions of people agree after sabotaging the implementation. It’s not a surprise the EU wants to curtail that (we’ll see if that still stays the case after the elections, when the Apple voters show up at the urns).
You care too much about this. Let people enjoy things.
Sure, enjoy aiding an $EvilCorp 👍 You do you. Have fun, babe.
I run GrapheneOS. I’m also not a dick about it.
Malicious compliance. I hope the EU stomps on them hard.
