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    Thanks for posting the single article which does not say “France is the first country to enshrine abortion rights in its constitution.” It’s not. Yugoslavia was. In 1974.

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        The US has become a cautionary tale for:

        • Refusing Universal Healthcare

        • Opposing Racial and Cultural Equity

        • Revoking Women’s Bodily Autonomy

        • Expanding Excessive Incarceration

        • Exonerating Police Violence

        • Dismissing Effective Gun Control

        • Ignoring Mass Shootings

        • Denying Veteran and First Responder Care

        • Allowing Environmental Toxins

        • Approving Carcinogens in Food

        • Condoning High Infant Mortality

        • Eradicating LGTBQ+ Rights

        • Encouraging Religion in Government

        • Dismantling Social Services

        • Rejecting Living Wage, Retirement, and Pension Issues

        • Persecuting the Low-income and Homeless

        • Promoting the Purchase of Politicians and Judges

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      How? No way 75% of the states would agree.

      An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification.

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        How? No way 75% of the states would agree.

        By electing sane politicians and not a bunch of weak populists who bend for the loudest rightwingnuts…

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          Yes but this continues to be true. The top level poster implied that at some point is was true, but it is no longer true. It’s never been reasonably possibly in the us and nothing has changed recently to make it meaningfully less possible.

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            No, they’re not. Populism as a whole is a horrible political strategy which benefits only a few members of the political class.

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              Populism is literally focusing on the masses. Now elitists use it as a pejorative to refer to fascists when fascists are also elitist with faux populist rhetoric.

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                No, populism is a focus on electorally beneficial short term goals. Has been so since always. Political decisions taken with the intent and plan of benefitting the populous are simply called a “good political administration”.

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                  No, populism is a focus on electorally beneficial short term goals.

                  I mean I’ve heard people accuse Bernie of being a populist but I don’t think he’s focused on short term goals. Are they using the term wrong?

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                  Political decisions taken with the intent and plan of benefitting the populous are simply called a “good political administration”.

                  That’s populism.

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            Populism is simply a political strategy where you appeal to the ‘common voter.’ It is neither good nor bad.

            Pro-Union efforts are populist. So are most socialist movements.

            The Nazis also ran on a populist campaign. As is Trump right now.

            Stating a movement is populist is an in-the-moment observation. I would argue that trying to sort ‘true populists’ who are actually trying to help their supporter base from ‘faux-populists’ fundamentally misuses the term, which is simply noting who the politician is trying to appeal to.

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        When Dems had the supermajority during the first part of Obama’s term, Roe could have easily been codified into law. They slept on this at the time, saying there were “other priorities.”

        So, while this doesn’t require a constitutional amendment to become the law of the land, with how incredibly dysfunctional Congress has become, it may be the case that Article V conventions are the only way to change the laws to suit the needs of the public over the desires of the elites.

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          their other priorities were arguing back and forth for months watering down a republican-written healthcare reform bill for the supposed benefit of republicans who still didn’t vote for it.

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              With Franken not sworn in for months, Byrd hospitalized and Kennedy’s death they never had 60 sitting senators.

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    Yeah, well, we put “You can’t be president if you lead an insurrection” into our constitution, so I just hope France holds the line better than the US did.

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    France become the first country to explicitly include the right to terminate a pregnancy in its constitution.

    No, Yugoslavia did it in the 70s.

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    China has had affordable, over-the-counter abortion pills since the 1970s. Kind of wild when you hear stories of people in the west who aren’t guaranteed this, and haveto argue back-and-forth with their doctor and insurance on justifying it and getting it covered.

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    But not all support it, with the Vatican repeating its opposition to abortion. “There can be no ‘right’ to take a human life,” the Vatican institution said in a statement, echoing concerns already raised by French Catholic bishops. It appealed to “all governments and all religious traditions to do their best so that, in this phase of history, the protection of life becomes an absolute priority”.

    !CW Wrote in a bit of angst.

    Raping kids on the other hand, is mandated by God.

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    Great…we Americans will now be required to have a special travel visa that requires a pregnancy test… pregnant? No travel for you! Specially France!

    Thanks Republicans! So smart! Like a really smooth rock!

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    Cool but too specific. How about the right to bodily autonomy? This includes abortion, assisted suicide, drug use, tattoos, piercings, plastic surgery, and gender reassignment.

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          Societal progress is like the figurative drop of water eroding the stone over time. It will happen. It just takes time. I’m protesting right wingers and bigots since the 90s. And many of the ideas and politics that are nowadays common weren’t back then. Give it time.

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    From what i read:

    “We’re sending a message to all women: your body belongs to you and no one can decide for you,” he added."

    Your body… well seems like a abortion is not about “your body” but a body from someone else’s…

    This world is crazy sometimes 😕