• alyaza [they/she]@beehaw.orgM
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    yeah. we’re trying to really curb who we’re adding at this point to “people who actually want to be here that align with our goals” so it’s not completely overwhelming (our backlog of admissions is about 100)

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      3 years ago

      Good luck with that, it’s no easy feat, and I expect it to get especially crazy when many sub-reddits shut down on the 12th. Be as ready as you can, I’ll try to help guide new users best I can as well.

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        as we’ve noted a couple times, an extreme option we can leverage is just not approving anyone and if it gets too crazy i’m pretty confident that’s what we’ll do (or we’ll limit our approvals to a general number per day, and what happens happens. i think we might also be able to make the instance private, dunno.

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          That’s fair. There’s only so much you and the admin team can handle, you have my trust to do whatever must be done. There will be plenty of other instances for new users to go to.

          In any case I hope it works out, as it sounds like you have a game plan if things get overwhelming. Cheers!

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          Hopefully you don’t have to make the community private, but shutting down approvals is a great option. They can always sign up for another instance and participate here

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            3 years ago

            Recommending mastodon seems like a good idea too, because mastodon users can interact in lemmy communities.

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              They can? Just when I feel like I’m starting to understand this, I’m confused again 😂.

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                They can but it’s a bit wonky. You can “subscribe” to lemmy communities by following the community as if it were a username, so for example you’d follow @chat@beehaw.org to follow !chat@beehaw.org. However, the result is that every single post and comment made in chat gets boosted (“retweeted”) into your feed, which is… not ideal.

                You can also respond to any lemmy post by pulling it up in mastadon and replying to it with your mastadon account. You can just search the link to a lemmy thread or post in the mastadon search bar to bring it up and reply from there.

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          What would going private mean in this context (sorry, I’m new to this fediverse thing)? Does it mean invite only, or does it mean only members can view the discussions?

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            It means we wouldn’t be allowing new accounts to be created on our instance. All of the communities here would still be federated with every instance we federate with. You’d still be able post and comment exactly as you can now.

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          I’ve got an idea. Since during the sign up phase we answer questions, so why not add a question that poses a hypothetical scenario where the prospective member can answer in their own words what they would do in that scenario.

          The scenario can be crafted to gauge someone’s kindness, even if there are no right or wrong answers. For example, we can have the question be:

          “Can you share an example of a recent action you took to make someone’s day better?”

          Or:

          “Tell me about a time when you offered assistance or support to someone in need.”

          Or:

          “Could you describe a situation where you went out of your way to show empathy or understanding to someone?”

          Trolls and ne’er-do-wells are not as likely to give detailed, thoughtful answers to these sorts of questions.

          This way it provides an additional way to screen applications so nice people migrate here.

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            While it will tend to exclude them, it’s also highly likely to exclude others as well. As an example, I have ADHD, so often it is difficult to amass enough spoons to provide detailed answers to things like this.

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      I’m just curious, what’s the plan (if any!) regarding moderation of users on other instances? Can individual users be banned on Lemmy? When would it get to the point of blacklisting an entire instance, as many have (IMO justifiably) done with Lemmygrad?

      I’m by no means anti-moderation, but I admit I have a slight fear of the lemmyverse fragmenting into isolated bubbles of servers that only talk among themselves. Or maybe that wouldn’t be so bad, and would maintain an acceptable level of decentralization. I don’t know, this is honestly all pretty new and fascinating to me.

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        I’m just curious, what’s the plan (if any!) regarding moderation of users on other instances?

        if you’re posting in a thread here but not registered on our instance, you’re still subject to being nice and generally courteous in line with what we expect of our own users.[1] we’ve already pruned a few comments from people off-instance that fall in that category, but overwhelmingly we just haven’t had to moderate people from elsewhere and we’d like to keep it that way!

        When would it get to the point of blacklisting an entire instance, as many have (IMO justifiably) done with Lemmygrad?

        very rarely. we defederate with lemmygrad and exploding-heads, and our standard right now is basically “does your entire instance and/or most of your users go against our ethos?” as far as that. we don’t expect this to be a big problem


        1. conversely if we’re notified of you doing something particularly egregious like harassing people on other instances or something, you’ll also get banned from here. don’t do that, please and thank you. ↩︎

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          overwhelmingly we just haven’t had to moderate people from elsewhere and we’d like to keep it that way!

          Yeah I don’t know if it’s the current small size of things, a filter from the confusion of signing up on Lemmy, or if it’s just new and exciting, but I haven’t experienced this kind of vibe and energy from an online space since forever ago. Not to say I haven’t had good conversations on reddit, but it was at a point where I felt I could just predict every reply I’d get to any particular comment.

          Anyway, thanks for putting in the work to try and create a nice community, best of luck!

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      Oh, really? I was surprised how quickly I “got in”. I doubted for a moment that someone actually read my join request message 😂.

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      I think this community has hit the sweet spot where there’s enough of a userbase that posts get traction and there’s a regular stream of posts, but not too manuy users that posts are easily buried under a sea of noise.