As per title, Help me choose a browser for android I have non rooted device. After all the researches I found best for me would be 1: Mull but with Some way for knowing which site have saved any data on my device (Maybe by extension or some defined page like about:config type) But as per my research I do not found any such thing. 2:Cromite or like it but with extension support like kiwi. 3:Privacy browser but just give assurance that google will not track me (as I have nonrooted device I have default webview).
I dont think that Vivaldi,Opera or brave stand anywhere when it is about privacy.
Help/advice/correct me!
Fennec (Firefox based), with Ghostery and uBlock origin installed.
You’ll have to set add-ons up as a private collection for them to work, but it’s easy as pie.
I don’t get cookies sanitizing and red exclamations ❗ there. Not all sites will attempt to track you with IP, most sites just will use cookies and cleaning them is effective way sites won’t remebeber it is you. I used Cookies Auto Delete, I whitelisted a lot of sites, but sites you visit once will store some useless data, which those extensions just purge. Sure if you often delete everything those extensions are not needed at all.
How have I not seen this list before?!
Interesting, I’ll look deeper into that. They have an adblocking engine as well though and catch a few random ones uBlock doesn’t, so I’m not totally convinced they are fully redundant.
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Mull is similar to Fennec except with some privacy tweaks. Generally Mull is better.
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You don’t need Ghostery anymore
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Hmm but On FF there are no way to see induvidual site data
You can delete cookies and data on a per-site basis, and advanced tracking protection prevents any nefarious websites from exploiting your browser. That’s all I care for.
In firefox android, I dont see any way to delete cookie+site data per site basis. Are u talking about chromium?
No, I’m talking about Firefox. Fennec, that is, but the key functions are all the same.
It’s not in the settings however, you need to open the site in question and press the lock icon in the address bar next to the URL, the context menu there allows to delete cookies and site specific data.
Thanks a lot setup complete, Thanks to all on thread
I use Firefox focus for random browsing, normal Firefox for general browsing that I want to keep the history of, and Mull for anything where I want to absolutely minimize tracking / enhance privacy.
Do u use FF sync?
Not usually, I don’t find it necessary most of the time. I have a separate pw manager (bitwarden) and if I need to share tabs I just message myself
Trying to do same (with keepass and taking bookmarks in .md) BTW what u do for bookmarks?
I personally like to keep them separate as I use the different devices for different purposes. I don’t really ever have more than the visible row of bookmarks at any one time. If I need to save something I’m not using often, I’ll archive the page. Like for recipes in particular I have a directory filled with them.
I use Iceraven with ublock, privacy badger, decentraleyes and canvasblocker.
But I want to know site data saved on my device,Any way!
Why not using Firefox, Firefox Focus or Brave?
How? It’s not on F-Droid. Play store is obviously not an option for a person, who cares about privacy.
Why not go directly to the source?
Imagine you have lots of toys, like your favorite games and cool apps on your tablet or phone. If you had to update them manually, it’s like having to go to each toy, take it apart, fix anything that’s broken, and then put it back together every time there’s a new version or improvement.
Now, think about having a special toy store for your toys. When you go to the store, they already know about any new cool features or fixes for your toys. All you have to do is ask the store to update your toys, and they make sure all your toys get the latest and greatest stuff without you having to do anything.
So, having a store for apps is like having a magical place where all your toys can be fixed and improved automatically, without you having to do the hard work of updating each one by yourself. It saves you time and makes sure your toys are always the best they can be!
Yeah, you loose auto updates but just saying there is a way if you don’t want to use other options.
U did not readed it well. As firefox on android do not have sandboxing and segregation things It cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc. Firefox due to same reason cannot tell about WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE.I need to know that info so I am asking for any solution but as per what I know there are no solutions
Sorry for poor english
cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc.
Don’t you think there is a reason why none of browsers provide this feature? Do you seriously want to open a website and be greeted with 30 pop ups asking “do you want to allow javascript on api.example.com website?”. Then instantly “do you want to allow loading static images/media on api.example.com website?”. Point is - it’s not how web works.
WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE
Imagine in your perfect world you get a pop up saying “Firefox has detected that example.com has saved 2 cookies on your device and they consume 43 bytes of your storage space. Do you want to delete them?”. Again, even if it saves cached data (static images) - why would you care? Firefox has addons that can help you to get rid of tracking cookies.
Please learn on how internet works. There is no such thing as “website”, especially in your context. Technically, your requested features could be possible to implement, but that would break like 100℅ of websites. And what you are probably looking for is something like Postman, but for Android. 🙆
Don’t you think there is a reason why none of browsers provide this feature? Cromite does provide it I am writing this reply from it and only some website have js enabled like lemmy instance I use,masto etc. Rest open without it and if something breaks I change settings for it. But I dont hate js, its fine and I was just explaining how I want things to happen. *Firefox has detected that example.com has saved 2 cookies … * I was not saying that but as in chromium or in ff desktop u can check which site have saved what data in settings I just want something like that (Nobody wants that much interupping popups) that would break like 100℅ of websites. Chrome does it and everything works
Firefox has Total Cookie Protection, each website has own cookies jar, it is isolated from other websites.
You may install some cookies extension to see individual cookies for every site, I did not used any myself, as I dont care about it, but I used CookiesAutoDelete extension, as replacement for Brave’s “forgetful browsing”, which deletes all cookies, if you do not whitelist websites, which you want cookies to be saved.
I just quickly searched Mozilla extensions and seems like Cookies Quick Manager shows every data of all cookies. There others as well, even Cookies Editor to edit them?
Anyway chromium browsers also show limited info about stored data, Kiwi shows number of cookies, which is not helpful. Brave shows size of stored data, which is not helpful either. So your best option is Mull, if you really need extensions.
Edit. Vivaldi is not that bad and collects less data, than Mozilla does. Opera is privacy nightmare. Brave is actually very good and better than all of them, as sync is accountless, data is not collected at all. Sure if you will not use Account in Vivaldi or Firefox/Mull they became similar to Brave as well, less fingerprints protection, but that is extreme cases. Accouns is main spy tools, not telemetry, which is mostly harmless.
I tried some addons and probably cookie is not only form of data. As I was loggined on piped.video but there were no cookie showing in quick cookie manager I also used cookie auto delete and piped data was not deleted. I dont have technical details but in an addon (Name was probably something like forget forever) which claim to delete all site data. There were about 10 types of data listed including cookie,IndexDb,Session storage etc. That extension was also not able to remove that data (Was showing not available on your platform).
Btw Xbrowser sync will function same as brave sync? Anonymous!
Yes, looks like this. But that is only for bookmarks… Also seems abandoned. Anyway I use Floccus to sync bookmarks between browsers.
Second article says gecko browser do have site data isolation.Is there any way I can know Indivudual site data saved on my device
You are aware that they do not need to save the data to your device to track you, right?
Ya I know and I dont want complete anonymity either.
Alright, just checking.
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Seconded. It’s my default browser and the amount of control it provides is fantastic.
Its is in obtanium will use it as disposable browser when ready.
A few hurdles towards using the browser:
- The user agent is “Privacy Browser,” which is not very private (it makes the browser stick out for servers) and it causes websites like DuckDuckGo to render in desktop mode
- Speaking of desktop mode, it’s enabled by default?!
- Speaking of DuckDuckGo, you have to add it manually (Google and Bing are included but DuckDuckGo is not)
- The tab bar takes up a lot of screen real estate, but I can only see two tabs at once
The browser also makes choices like disabling JavaScript and deleting data on exit, which are at least privacy choices. I’m not sure what the
Mull has been discontinued in December 2024. Ironfox is a fork of it.
I would say go with either chromite or firefox. Both are private, supported for now, and can block ads (UBO on firefox)
U did not readed it I want some extensionised version of cromite or site data in firefox
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try iceraven?
But for what ? ellaborate pls!
i could make out that you want :
about:config
mobile extensions
privacy focused
and iceraven is all 3
In privacy i think mull is better than iceraven with its arkenfox.js and trackers removal. Extensions can be added to all these browsers by custom addon collection
Any popular browser in incognito mode with a VPN?
“Any popular browser in incognito mode” is probably the worst advice I’ve ever heard.
Well fuck me then
Hey man didn’t mean to make you feel down. Incognito mode is just the wrong tool for the job.
I pair it with a paid VPN. Why isn’t it good enough?
Also, just because a VPN is paid for does not mean it is secure. Look into Mullvad and as a second option Proton VPN, if you have not already.
I have proton plus. What’s wrong with incognito mode and unlock origin??? I’ve been doing this for years. I’ve had no issues
Well to cut it short, Incognito mode often just means that your own device will not remember anything. Meaning your keyboard does not log your keystrokes, your browser does not save your searches etc. Even if this was compeletely true 100% of the time (which it is not, example, you copy or download something), then the websites you visit would still have your device’s fingerprint, so a VPN connection won’t do much. It is better to use a privacy-oriented browser like Mull. If you want to, you can add incognito mode ON TOP, which on Firefox and therefore Mull is called private browsing mode. Do keep in mind, that it is hard enough to have a non-unique fingerprint. This only gets amplified on mobile devices, at least speaking for Android. IOS is out of the window by default lmao.
😂 you’re telling me that by using proton plus VPN with, say, Firefox in private mode, websites still know who I am? I’m not logged into anything. They don’t know anything.
Yes. They do. Not by name, but by your fingerprint.
No browser has a VPN function, it’s just a proxy. You can use sth like Bitmask for a free VPN. Calyx Institute and RiseUP provide some free servers too.
Opera
