• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    To add to other comments, Bethesda NPCs haven’t aged well. Especially when they’re right next to Baldur’s Gate 3 NPCs. Starfield left a lot to be desired. Can’t believe we’ve been lacking ES for this

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      2 years ago

      I’ve no faith in Bethesda anymore. I played about 25 hours in Starfield and had finished the ranger questline and felt that is so shallow. Then I started thinking about all the quests that I did and how they didn’t change or lead to anything. If Bethesda don’t change how they structure quests then I won’t play any of their future RPGs.

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        2 years ago

        The name of the game has changed. Its no longer about shoving stuff in a big world. Players of the genre want their choices to matter in an adaptive world. Bethesda didn’t get the memo they were so caught up in their empty dream sandbox.

        Edit: I should also add expected AI behavior is evolving. After Rain World, I notice bland AI.

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          2 years ago

          It used to be that if you wanted an open world game you had a handful of options, and for RPGs Fallout and Elder Scrolls were really the only options. Nowadays we have more open world games than you can shake a stick at. Bethesda doesn’t seem to realize that the rest of the industry has caught up with and passed them in a lot of ways

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            2 years ago

            20 years ago this was Bethesda’s style. They were the open-world rpg simulation. Now and Indie Dev can drop 6 character models and 6 objects into a game engine and have similar functionality in maybe a month. Two weeks if its hunkering down like a game jam. Technology has surpassed their products. They need to do something to spice it up or ES 6 is gonna bomb.

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              2 years ago

              I’m convinced I’ll still be playing Skyrim in 2035 when TES6 is released. There are so many mods due to come out in the next 3 years.

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      2 years ago

      Maybe you just need to upgrade your PC

      EDIT: Damn, really didn’t think I’d need the /s for this one

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          Man if it ran on a toaster people would be bitching that these toasters are holding the game back why aren’t they not using the full power of my new Gen console/$2000 RTX PC?!

          Can’t fucking win.

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            2 years ago

            It’s fine to require newer hardware but the game has to justify it. You can’t have a game that looks like Starfield and claim it needs a high end system to run when games like BG3 and Cyberpunk also exist.

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            2 years ago

            Yeah… No. I agree that people will always bitch about shit, but Starfield released with many optimization issuses worth bitching about. Such as flatout bad memory allocation (causing it to misalign with the CPU page size), an incorrect imlementation of DirectX12’s ExecuteIndirect feature causing major issues with GPU’s, and some insanely stupid choices regarding basic customization features (why do you have to change the resolution of your desktop to play the game in full screen at your desired resolution ffs!?).

            If it was a case of the game being so cutting edge it needed top of the line hardware that would be one thing. But frankly it was just so poorly optimized that they hoped top of the line hardware would mitigate their quality control issues.

            Thank Vivec for modders at least, as this has been Bethesda’s MO for decades.

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    2 years ago

    According to the article, Starfield was still nominated for best RPG… so, not really ghosted. More like they got the participation award for the unfinished, under-baked game they put out.

    It would have been insulting to the other devs if they were nominated for GOTY, because Starfield isn’t even in the same league as the other nominees and Bethesda should play those to see what an actual polished game feels like.

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    2 years ago

    Because they ghosted us when we asked where the rest of this “25 year dream” game was

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    2 years ago

    I mean, the best thing about Starfield for me was that watching the trailer inspired me to fire up No Man’s Sky again after a couple years away.

    But I guess sensational headlines get more clicks.

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    2 years ago

    Was it because… It was a steaming plate of nothing? Hilarious that Bethesda used to be the gold standard for gaming, but they’re still stuck in 2011

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      2 years ago

      Gamebryo is the least of their problems, making soulless triple A games is what is plaguing Bethesda and Arkane now.