This title is dumb. Companies are not selling all of their products at a loss just to harvest your data[1] and privacy is not significantly more expensive. Don’t let capitalism fool you into believing we’re suffering from anything but the natural progression of “infinite growth”.
We’re so far into dystopia, and used to every company double/triple/quadruple dipping, that the entire concept of a company simply building a quality product, that lasts as long as possible, without ads, or extracting and selling your data, planned obsolescence, or price gouging is insanity… which is itself, batshit insane. This is not an efficient system. It’s a runaway freight train of greed and narcissism that is parasitically killing our host spaceship.
[1] they might be with Alexa hubs and other select data harvesting multipliers, but they’re probably selling them at cost or a tiny loss.
Depends on the business model. Take Apple and Amazon. Apple makes most of its cash off hardware sales. As such, Apple will never sell you a $50 Mac hoping to make the money back thru services or ad revenue of any kind. And why their HomePods cost 3x more than any smart speaker.
On the other hand, Amazon doesn’t make money off hardware. They routinely blow out Fire products at insane discounts. A 10th of what Apple charges for a comparable product. Because they make their cash of sales and services. Products are just a conduit to more lucrative services.
You can’t lump every company into the same money making MO. Every company tends to have their own unique angle.
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Valetudo isn’t firmware. I’ve got iRobot devices (because I’m an idiot and didn’t know they come with cameras connected to AWS) and the firmware is the buggiest shit I’ve ever used.
Yeah it’s nice not to depend on AWS but I also don’t want shit firmware on the damn things.
How bad is it?
This is cool but it would have to be like a third that price before anyone could take the leap. If anything someone should find some way to hack and replace the spyware in a Roomba or something
ooooor use whatever brand and model is compatible with Home Assistant
Eh. That doesn’t prevent anything if the unit itself still connects to the internet somehow (looking at you, Wyze).
You really just need to make sure the unit doesn’t and can’t get online. Very few of those out there.
And that is why VLANs are amazing. Can’t phone home if it can’t connect to the internet.
Don’t they have cellphone network capabilities
LMAO
Another solution that guarantees no data is sold is to just buy a regular corded vacuum. It may not be as convenient, but it’ll save you having to worry about your vacuum stealing data. At least until they start forcing newer models to require an app.
I’m pretty sure my corded vacuum has been speaking about me behind my back and turning my wife against me.
It just shouldn’t need to be the case that I sacrifice privacy for convenience.
Years ago shopkeepers asked you what you wanted and then they went and got it and packaged it for you. Then it became the better option to let you choose your own items and we’d just deal with the shopkeep to pay. This way more people were served simultaneously and everything went quicker. Imagine if you had to tell the shopkeeper the last time you cranked yourself or what size your living room is in order to progress to this more efficient process.
dyson
My current vacuum, cordless, with swappable batteries, was $100
I could buy ten of them and leave multiples in each room (because I don’t live in a mansion)
Damn that bag must be super small to only last a week. My s7 ultra dock bag lasts around 6 months. Before I started living with a cat I was still using the original bag that had been going on a year and still wasn’t full, vacuuming daily.
Edit: For context, my roborock dock’s bag is 3 liters, so think the volume of 1 and a half 2 liter soda bottles, and the apartment it lasted a year in was ~500 sq ft. The matic’s bag needs to fit inside the robot and looks to be close to the size of the palm of your hand. You can see it at 0:37 in the video on their site.
I have the S7+ and is awesome. The ultra must be crazy.
Yeah the ultra dock is amazing, I got the mop dryer and water change kit addons, so it auto refills the clean water tank from my washing machine water line, and auto empties the dirty mop water out a tube I stuck down the washing machine drain. I used to have to refill/empty those water bins every week but now the most frequent maintenance is rinsing out the water filter every 2-3 weeks. Everything else seems to be only required monthly.
Buy a Valetudo compatible vacuum and patch it. Dreame L10 is the first one that comes to mind.
Me speaking to my mum: Get off Facebook! They’re just trying to sell you shit you don’t need!
Also me: oh, I should replace my robot vac with this fancier one!
I’m gonna have to wait for some sweet sweet inheritance before I can afford this one.
I’m think I’m okay with using my bagless, cordless, replaceable battery, dumb vaccuum.
Or just buy one with a remote or a manual one. It does not and should not require an app to function
Anyone have experience with roborock s7 ultra with valetudo or simmilar?
I have a roborock q5. What’s your question?
What is your perspective on Hegel’s dialectic of Master and Slave and the inference that these asymmetric recognitive relations are metaphysically defective, and does this apply to your relationship with the roborock q5?
Who is the master and who is the slave in this particular relationship? Can authority exist without responsibility and vice versa, or does it necessitate reciprocity?
The mind runs wild.
Id like to know is it worth to get valetudo. I see some dissasembly and soldering required (warranty void) and not sure do I lose any functions. Maybe there is something betterfor s7?
Does it need wifi or an app?
I hooked mine up to wifi and the app. I thought it was pretty sweet it maps out your house and shows you that map on the app. Will it work without the wifi or the app? I don’t really know. I’m not paranoid and want to use all the features on my 300 dollar robot vacuum.
That’s nice do you, but this is a privacy community. I don’t think it’s weird to think it’s weird that a robot that connects to wifi maps out my house. Don’t like it, don’t want it.
My bad. Guess I didn’t realize where I was when I said that. My apologies.
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Can you use a Roomva without connecting it to the internet?
Older models, yes but not the newer ones.
I have a roomba and I’ve never connected it to anything but the wall for power.
Do you press a button on robot to start cleaning or what?
Yep, just touch the button on the top.
It’s got a clean, dock, and spot clean button.
Would you mind sharing what model it is, if you know offhand?
Mine is just the base roomba model
Like the most recent one, or did you buy it several years ago?
Like the cheapest base roomba on Amazon, I’ve had it a couple years so my info might be off.
