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As a kid I was undecided between art and science as possible career paths. I chose art. I guess I was doomed anyway
We need to stop thinking about careers as fields we want to work in and more about the tasks we will be doing. As someone with a stem degree who works in manufacturing there are so many tasks that are more art form then doing any science. If I told you as a kid you could be a fully accomplished artist by becoming an engineer you would have blown me off.
At the end of the day, though, what always ends up happening is we become teachers, negotiators, and networkers. You can do it anywhere. Having a skill only gets you in the door.
I think we need to stop thinking about careers as dreams to be followed, and more as a means of making money. Dreams can be followed in your free time. Life demands money.
As someone who spent ten years attempting to follow my dreams and is now broke because he has a shitty job, it would be a lot easier to follow my dreams now if I had more money to spend and more time off to do it in.
If you have to work all the time just make ends meet, you don’t have time to follow your dreams. Get a good job first, then follow your dreams with all the money and time off you’ll have.
That’s a balanced take, I agree. It doesn’t make it any easier though, I guess it’s why the meme still works as a joke.
Academia is a pyramid scheme. There is no changing my mind.
Yep.
I’m convinced it’s a system designed to take advantage of young impressionable people who don’t know any better while keeping ‘expertise’ and ‘knowledge’ behind a paywall.
Nothing uni has taught me could not have been learnt by myself reading papers and following YouTube.
Except for the fact learning through those means is not recognised as ‘legitimate’.
One of the most valuable parts of my MA program (probably the most) has been learning directly from faculty. Especially in understanding theory. That’s something I just couldn’t grasp straight from the writings, even with secondary texts. Plus the historical context that I wouldn’t have considered.
Teaching experience has been valuable, in that I’ve learned that I hate it and that I despise the institution of academia in general. Yes, my dreams have been crushed by its greed, bureaucracy, and emphasis on the status quo, but at least I won’t waste 4-6 more years on a PhD.
I love my field. I love writing and research. I like lecturing and being in the classroom. But working within my discipline is like ten percent of my time. The rest is spent on navigating bureaucracy, actual hours spent answering emails, getting shit approved by admin who know nothing about my field, attending pointless meetings, and office politics. And from what I hear it would only get worse. It’s so disappointing. As much as I love my discipline, it’s not worth it.
Eta: oh, and can’t forget the constant demands and criticisms with jack shit in return. Every student and faculty member is demanding every minute of my time, not a single thing is ever good enough, there’s never a single ounce of positive feedback. The closest I ever get is an A on a paper with a bunch of criticisms. The grading I do for other people’s classes could have over half the class getting D’s based on the prof’s answer key, but yeah, it’s definitely your TAs grading that’s the problem. I think that’s all they’re paying us (less than minimum wage) for. To shoulder all the blame and the busy work with zero recognition or empathy for our workload.
When the job market is good, get a job.
When the job market is bad, get an education.
i don’t want either of those things
Then get a life.
When they’re both good, get both.
When they’re both bad, live in your parents basement.
Academia is a scam and in a lot of ways the only reward for locking yourself into it is the opportunity to tell young people to just follow your narrow path to success. And I’m not saying everyone in academia is a trying to scam students, I mainly mean that PhDs lack objectivity on how the world works because they’re so locked into their weird little corner of the world and view of as fine and normal
As a recent PhD, yeah. A lot of people im my department are pretty isolated. When I was a grad student I felt pretty connected to the outside world because I was a worker, now I need to make sure I dont isolate myself
Anyone who worked in a lab as an undergrad knew this. Some of us still chose to pursue it…
As someone getting ready to use grad school to change careers, should I be worried
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Right in the feels. This is why i’ve joined a party and am working towards a different system.
I’m in stage three right now, where are you?
