• Pratai@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    Releasing a game and denying it to a console that outsells your own 2:1 shows how little Microsoft knows about gaming.

    So… This isn’t surprising at all.

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          2 years ago

          The reason it’s not working out is because they had no exclusives, now they do and the people on the platform that always had exclusives are suddenly upset.

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            2 years ago

            PlayStation doesn’t buy out IP that once was on all platforms and turn it exclusive you knob. They have ip that begin as exclusive.

            These aren’t the same things.

            If Microsoft want to exclusives, they should home grow it like Sony does. But they can’t. So they just buy it out.

            They’re the Yankees of gaming, only they still can have a successful season.

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      2 years ago

      What’s truly not surprising is Sony fanboys defending the benefits of exclusives up until Xbox has an exclusive they want.

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        2 years ago

        Point out to me where I’ve done that please. And point out any fanboyism while you’re at it.

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          2 years ago

          Well there’s the fact that you omitted Sony and Nintendo from your criticism entirly, despite the fact that both companies have bought numerous studios and paid other studios to make games exclusively for their respective platforms for decades, thereby reducing their potential revenue for some benefit that’s clearly obvious to those companies.

          And yet, when Microsoft does it…they are just limiting their potential market for no reason and it’s obviously a stupid business move. Sure. Seems a little sus, is all.

          Either the entire fucking industry is guilty of this “bad business practice” or maybe there’s a calculated reason for it. Pick one.

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            2 years ago

            You don’t see me complaining about Halo, do you? Do you wonder why? It’s because Microsoft did it with an IP that was already widely popular across all platforms, and then pulled it. And if I remember correctly, told everyone they wouldn’t pull it.

            Sony hasn’t don’t that. Again, as I’ve said, they begin with their own IP. And that IP from creation is Sony exclusives.

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              Um…Sony was in talks to pay for Starfield to be a PS exclusive - which would have taken it from PC for a year and from xbox permenantly - until MS bought Beth.

              Also, Starfield is a new IP, not an “already existing and widely popular” one…

              I’ll also mention that Phil Spencer publically admonished and fought against exclusivity agreements for years. He has said in interviews both private and public that he prefers a world where there are no exclusives. Until the market spoke and declared “exclusives” to be the measuring stick of a platform’s health, thus forcing his hand. And now here we are.

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      Yeah, but MS games aren’t console exclusive. They come out on PC day one two which is a bigger audience than both consoles combined. Given the player numbers Starfield really hasn’t suffered due to not being on PS. In some countries it’s doing exactly what a console exclusive should and getting people to pick up an Xbox.

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        2 years ago

        I guarantee you it’s not doing what it could if they released cross-platform.

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          2 years ago

          If you don’t think a company as big as MS did a cost/benefit analysis before they made the decision I don’t know what to tell you. Of course any product available to more people sells better, but MS are playing a longer game. If previous Bethesda games are anything to go on, people will be talking about, modding, posting clips, etc of this game for a while and that’s tons of free advertising for XB and Gamepass.

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            ROFL… if you don’t think a company as big as Microsoft can’t make mistakes, I don’t know what to tell you.

            And talking about a game isn’t selling copies. Nor is modding. People are pirating it and for good reason. It’s not worth the cash spent to donate to a company that thrives based on free labor to fix the bug ladened disasters they release.

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              How do you think marketing works? Someone posts a cool thing they’ve done in Starfield, and someone else gets some FOMO and decides to buy the game, sub to Gamepass, get an Xbox to play it, etc.

              No not everyone is pirating the game, a lot of people on Lemmy may be as this is an echo chamber of techie types, but the general audience don’t even know how to, and if they prefer to play on console, can’t.

              Clearly you have beef with Bethesda, and are letting it cloud your judgement here, but the fact of the matter is lots of people are playing and enjoying the game as is, out the box before any mods are officially available.

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                2 years ago

                Clearly you’re a white knight for anything Bethesda, so I’m gonna dip out.

                Hope that check your receive pays for your much needed vacation to reality.

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                  Over one game? I thought Fallout 4 was a disappointing step back from New Vegas and 76 was a misjudged project that turned up messy and broken and I’ve never even looked at playing. The last game of theirs I truly enjoyed pre Starfield was Skyrim, over a decade ago. I’m not white knighting them, you clearly have an irrational hatred of them and are unable to admit when they do something positive, a common issue today when people turn hating something into their identity and are unable to ever move from the stance. Like most Devs, they’ve had their ups and downs and the ups should be praised and the downs criticised.

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        2 years ago

        They think only PlayStation should have exclusives because it’s the biggest.

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    2 years ago

    What I want to know is will we ever see a new Champions of Norrath game? Does anyone remember that game?

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    2 years ago

    BG3 is an outlier. I completely understand why it wasn’t on the radar. Pent up DnD demand + decent execution sent it to the moon.