It’s totally replaced reddit for me. Every community I’m interested is smaller than I’m used to, but much more positive. It’s cool even seeing a lot of the same names occasionally as I navigate around the site.
I hope it keeps this level of quality as it grows.
What’s really cool is seeing actual conversations taking place. I’m actually able to comment here and I’m not immediately being drowned out by being one of ten thousand comments or constant contrarian trolling.
It has also totally replaced Reddit for me. It reminds me a lot of the old internet and a bit of early Reddit. It’s a really cool experiment, and if it continues as-is I will be thrilled, and if not then I will forever have a sense of pride of what everyone here accomplished. It’s very cool.
Yeah, I never feel like I’m commenting/posting into the void. By my surprise, it has actually encouraged me to post more, which isn’t something I expected when I joined Lemmy, and definitely not something I ever did on reddit.
My dude, you and Stamets are my Lemmy heroes. I can’t imagine I’d spend that much time on Lemmy if you guys weren’t around.
Haha, I’m glad! I know I post a lot of memes in general, but Risa is by far my favorite community on lemmy. The more people that get into Star Trek, the better, I say!
I’ve always been such an admirer and peruser of such a classic and timeless dialectical format. Its like constantly examining knowledge and each other and being likewise cross-examined in all the best ways
I honestly believe it has made me a much better writer and thinker although I have no pretensions about how systematic any of it is.
Edit: it can compel me to be hilariously nitpicky sometimes
Anything that makes you think critically, ponder, analyse, or absorb knowledge is a grand thing.
I just had an idea: daily Lemmy debates. We pick a topic that is relevant to the day, and we engage in healthy, respectful debate, picking a side and exploring that stance until all points of logic are exhausted.
Great idea. I also really liked Reddits’s KarmaCourt or whatever with the roles for Judge, prosecutor, defense, other officers of the “Court”, and jury etc. I love shit like that, its like the internet’s version of HarveyBirdman Attorney at Law. Oh, and SubredditSimulator is goddamn hilarious.
Good schtuff
I’d really love it if someone could prosecute me for something in KarmaCourt, I doubt they would prevail, unfortunatley for all of us :(
I really do hope Lemmy can become sufficiently populous to allow for revitalizing all the niche subreddits and perpetuate+encourage that knowledge dissemination and truth-seeking function that Reddit (the community of communities rather than RedditCo) tends to do stunningly well.
I made one of my favorite niche communities (on my Lemmy.world account), for the XCOM games. And I try to drop memes in a few other super niche communities that I’m interested in every so often.
Growth is slow, but a handful of very active users can contribute more than you’d think.
Just be careful. There’s some bad hombres out there spamming bad stuff and I don’t want any nice volunteers getting burned online or offline, if you catch my drift.
Same. Couldn’t have said it better.
Its insane how responsive and quick rhe answers pile up, asklemmy is the shit. Just asked a life or death question and already got lke r organic answers
I post and comment a lot, and it frequently leads to me having like 40-50 messages in my inbox if I don’t check for a few hours. I’ve even noticed a significant uptick lately, which is encouraging.
That can also be regulated to a certain extent at the Federation/instance level so its very possible to have different conventions or varying levels of quality control for posting and commenting
We can even have communities on similar topics with different vibes, moderating styles, etc. It’s great.
If you’re not calling groups like that “Cubes” in your community, do you even Star Trek?
Cause we’re small but mighty
Reddit, eat ur heart out!
I’ve been trying out the other fediverse platforms, based on how cool Lemmy is, and they all pale in comparison. It really is a neat little thing we’ve got going on.
I really do like Tildes for certain more predictably high-quality answers when its something serious or technical but it can seem a touch heavy-handed. Ultimately, I appreciate the rigor where its important to have that and filter the memes and general+local
anaesthesianonsense we all love and know Lemmy for ;)Your post prompted me to have a look at Tildes. It looks alright, but a bit… dry.
Its not for everyone and that’s part of why its for me ;) Not that I’m elitist or anything, I just hate low-efforts and assholes, ne’r may the two meet here
Yes! Viva la difference! I like that there are a lot of options for everyone, I’d just like some more options that suited me.
J’adore le différance á Jacques Derrida
It can be. Women or queer persons can potentially have a tough time there, too.
Ya, that post was pretty wishsy-washy and sweeping, people can make their points without needing to resort to identity politics to give credibillity to non-credible or insufficient arguments they want to toss out there. From my experience, I could argue any point from whatever lens you can think of and I believe I could receive votes and recognition. I can even swear because the force of my argument will be sufficient to excuse any nominal crassness that I strategically use to intensify the reasonable claim I ultimately make from the relevant or hypothetical vantage point in question.
Can you elaborate or link me to some corroboration of that—it seemed remarkably progressive and reasonable in my limited experience
So, here’s the thing. There’s a difference between a space allowing people that don’t look or act like the people already in the group and accepting those people. In some places, inclusiveness ends as soon as you get in the front door. Tildes is one of those places.
Now, don’t get wrong, I don’t think most of the people at Tildes are intentionally malicious or anything like that. And any large influx of people like the kind that would have happened with open registration after what went down on Reddit is going to cause mistrust and, sometimes, hostility. That’s just human nature. The difference is Tildes is intentionally protective of its culture.
This came about by both a) restricting the development of niche (or minority) communities, and b) limiting invites so that the small trickle of people who come in are assimilated more easily. That culture–like so many of these types of places–started with mostly white men of privilege from the tech sector. All the good and bad that comes with that is going to propagate in such an environment.
Even if Tildes didn’t originate in a culture that has a reputation for being homogenous and abrasive, this setup would still have lead to a certain type of group-think. Dismissive, and a little bit short on empathy and active listening. Martin Luther King Jr. talked about negative peace, where there wasn’t open hostility, just an absence of tension (as opposed to positive peace, which is the presence of justice). This is not dissimilar.
This comment chain on Tildes is an example someone else shared.
My only argument I wanna make here is nobody knew my race or identity when I even asked for and summarily received an invite to Tildes (almost instantly!)
Unless I’m making some perceptual or logical issue here, I would say that is a stark contrast to the vignette you sorta painted here.
Again, it’s not about who they let in. It’s about how they respond to conversation that doesn’t mesh with their ingrained culture.
The conversation I linked is all about that.
I am slowly looking at other socmed options than the big three. Tildes and maybe Bluesky will be on the list. I liked Mastodon but they muted me so I never visit any more
I’d say Tildes, HackerNews, and Hubski are all really cool and high quality.
What the heck happened tho? Did you do something or what do you think precipitated that?
Simple: I point out that violence is the goal of fascists and that violence is the only way to deal with them. BANNED for historical accuracy
I’d say Tildes, HackerNews, and Hubski are all really cool and high quality.
I’d say Tildes, HackerNews, and Hubski are all really cool and high quality.
You have an invite for Tildes?
I don’t know when I start getting them, I’m pree new
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What’s Reddit? Is he on Lemmy?
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Ya, i really appreciate Tildes as kinda of a haven from any nonsense when I feel a bit more serious or inquisitive about something heady.
Deimos?
Honestly I think lemmy is kinda meh but im just here cus fuck reddit…
I agree, but I sometimes check out reddit as well and it’s also been meh now. It seems that social media as a whole is in a steep decline. No good content anywhere. Or maybe I’m just getting old.
This is a transition period.
Reddit lost a lot of important contributors during its little krystalspez crackdown. The formula for a successful, self-propagating online community is: good moderation + posted content + interesting comments + lurkers = healthy community.
Reddit still maintains a lot of its heavy posters, but a lot of the interesting comment makers have drifted off… a lot of them moved here. The federated communities don’t have the continuous churning content creators en masse yet, but they do have interesting comments coming from the people that are here.
Reddit is somewhat the opposite. The content creators are churning away, but the interesting comments are dying off. There is more content being created on Reddit, but the comment that you will quote, or think about all day, is now slightly more likely to be made in a federated thread.
So Reddit feels hollow, and out here feels growing but still light on content. I predict that prolific posters prefer pointed ripostes to their posting, and will work their way here. That will be great, but it will also drag along a lot of the problem children of reddit as well. That will put a huge burden on the moderation here, as well as start piling on those server fees. I predict in a year or two, we will face the choice of doing zany pledge drives to protect our larger servers, or face some forms of blatant monetization. Also we’ll have to figure out how to avoid giving the hug of death to new federated servers with interesting content.
…and there will be hidden corporate shill servers trying to latch in. Another problem with federation we need to consider down the road.
But it’s worth it. Capitalism will always try to exploit community, but community is an important human experience. If we can keep the leeches down to a minimum, we can build great things together, and help each other in a world that increasingly only offers what profits most. That type of community is what Reddit pretended to be, and it’s what the Federated Communities can be.
I think at some point we are really going to need to look at success stories like Tildes and HackerNews and find the common strategies we can employ to sustain the viabillity and legitimacy of Lemmy.
Tildes success stories
lmao
It is because it is basically self-sustaining, its already won me over with the quality and rigor of discussions (which exist), and guess what they don’t have problems with: moderation and CSAM issues, which Lemmy currently does (alledgedly).
We can argue over the semantics of “successfull” since its a vague overlapping conflation of quantitative and qualitative metrics, but let’s try to maintain a productive discussion about allies we can work with to improve our own platform.
Why do lemmy users keep ignoring the obvious success of Mastodon. Its clearly the most successful federated platform. We should be learning from Masto.
That too, yes definitely :)
I know we’ll win you over, with time 🤠
Just a heads up, this is how early reddit was. People will argue that the larger the platform the more likely the community will deteriorate. I will argue that is partly true and does contribute to enshittification of social media, but I think the main factor is the corporate greedos trying to continuously increase profit. Reddit kept making new rules and policies that kept degrading the platform. They made a toxic environment where flaming and antagonistic content would be shown on people’s feed.
Am I saying Lemmy isn’t awesome? Not really. You guys can make that conclusion. But I have seen similar posts like this in the early days of reddit. Make do of this as you want. Ponder and ask what made reddit bad and if this is the path of lemmy or it is “naturally” immune to it.
The federation aspect helps regulate. If it gets too bad, we could always go invite-only for certain periods to quiet things down a bit like Tildes insists on. Not the worst way to preserve access while limiting the bullshit
First weekend on Lemmy and I’m loving it.
I’m noticing a very strong hard-left bent though, which suits me just fine, but it’s interesting to see how progressive this space is
I think the center ain’t working for folks anymore
People behave in normal distributions. By definition vast majority of people are in the centre. The extremists (outliers) scream the loudest and warp an observer’s perception but the actual population is still a normal distribution.
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Progressives came here to build. The conservatives will be along to bitch about the place eventually.
I think some of them got established before the recent reddit exodus, so it kind of guided the political leaning.
The Politics@ communities seem to be doing their best to bring that back to the right, but yes, outside of that it’s leftist to a lovely degree.
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I’ve commented more here in this short time than my 10 years on reddit. I feel heard and I feel supported. Most people are civil and respectful and I really appreciate it. Thank you all.
Well fuck you then.
Well… that escalated pretty quickly
I definitely escalated real quick just now 💦
Heh
Same here and I love it!! This is not Reddit, this is Lemmy!
Federation is just complicated enough to keep the dummies out. Also probably defederating the idiot instances and better content moderation.
I don’t understand the “it’s complicated” thing. Figuring out which instance to use was slightly confusing (I went with lemmy.world because it seemed to be the most popular at the time), but after that, it’s no more complicated than Reddit or any other social media site. Am I missing anything?
It’s the “slightly confusing” step that 80% of people don’t take.
Yep. Presenting the user with a choice that they don’t fully understand (which instance should I choose? What even is an instance?) is a very big deterrent.
Bigger deterrent is presenting real choice than one they don’t understand
No, you tried something new, the unknown did not dither you. Weirdly, that was the “complicated” barrier.
Ackshually so right about that. Don’t wanna be mean, but yeah, no.
Well, dummies is too strong a word tbh. its the people who didn’t take the 30 seconds to understand how they have been using e-mail, a federated service, their entire fucking lives and things worked well.
Lemmy has been helping me lots. Been feeling so isolated, this is the first social online platform I’ve been able to participate in years. Talking to actual humans. Being able to help other humans.
Hell ya, party on, bruh
Hello Pi :)
Welcome! It might be doomsday outside, the roof of this place is leaking and might be close to caving in, but I’m glad you are here in this corner of the Internet with us today. ❤
Its kind of funny and interesting, there a few big players in the Fedi, and for the most part, we all try and get along.
Who doesnt love pi??
Pi is listed to 90 decimal points, taped to wall across from bed. I recite it over and over when going to sleep. =)
I agree, 100%. I never posted on other social media platforms until trying Lemmy, Mastodon, or Firefish. I find the fediverse is a really pleasant experience as long as the instance moderates can keep up with the spam, trolls, and other unwanted content. I think it’s because it’s not trying to commercialize the platforms that makes it more interesting and pleasant, at least for me.
I love that there are so many geeks with such healthy understanding about the world.
Religion? Pff, everyone pro-atheism.
Climate change? Pff, everyone against corps.
Open source software & privacy? Pff, lots of suggestions od what to do and what NOT to do.
Lemmy is great.
I’m really not against going to church and being pro-social, as long as people are innoculated with critical thinking and common sense.
As a critical thinker, church is unlikely to be high on your list of socializing options - unless you’re conducting some kind of experiment.
Its not about the god stuff, its about community and getting out to meet and socialize with it. God is just the social lubricant in place of alcohol but lots of cool people, musicians particularly, younger people like myself to make friends, lunches, prizes, volunteering to help people in non-religious services, etc.
Don’t give a flying fuck about god, “he” is most likely nothing more than a simulacrum at this point (as he always was), its just good people and really accepting ones depending on the church. Mine def is
As a church enjoyer, I feel very othered right now. Can we go back to the vibe of OP’s indiscriminate joy and excitement?
As someone who sees religion as a scourge on society and the unfettered, tax-free existence of churches as little more than a symptom, I wasn’t crazy about the possible implication that church attendance was required in order for one to be considered prosocial.
I do if its a badly-behaving church that is doing that crap, otherwise they can really be a positive fixture of the community if its done right
Trust me, he’s the other. God love 'em ;)
Aww, you went and ruined it. Come awnnn
I’m amazed these days at how acute my “bullshit-o-meter” is. Its pretty fucking hard to run any bullshit past me most days as of late. This format really is brain candy for my personality and knowledge aquisition
I, for one, try real hard. But thanks!
I actually don’t try very hard, probably coasting on your efforts. So thanks for that!
I don’t try at all, I’ve just been drafting you
Whoever’s drafting you isn’t even going to reply, which is so them.
I confused. What does drafting you mean? I’m guessing you aren’t conscripting me into your team or Army…
In this case it’s referring to aerodynamic drafting, which is often used in various forms of racing. You let the person ahead of you fight the air resistance while following them closely behind so that you experience less drag.
It takes three to Tango
Well I, for one, welcome our trier overlords
When I parted ways with reddit, when the API scandal happened, it was very timely. A lot of content from reddit was toxic for me. All the negative news, about environment, about how people are treated at their job, about how shitty companies are nowadays. Not to mention the rampant cynicism…
I left all that behind, and it really helped me get the high ground (hey Anakin) against my mental health problems. I was dangerously flirting with a burnout. This break was very beneficial.
When I saw that Sync for lemmy was available, I tried it. The facts that there are much less trolls here, much less cynicism (and also the fact that I’m now medicated) really help, and I feel now I can be among communities that aren’t too toxic for me.
Thanks lemmy friends.
Glad you’re here friend, and glad you’re doing better!
Dammit Reddit was so fucking unhealthy.
The thing is… I was using reddit as a coping mechanism. I didn’t want to feel what I was feeling so I would numb my mind with nonsense content on reddit. At one point, it became more harmful than numbing.
It does feel more like the old alien place before it became mainstream. I’d bet there are a lot of those old users that felt disenfranchised by the low quality bot voted stuff that moved to the various servers here.
Unlike places like Tildes which essentially has been trying to recreate the alien experience, lemmy provides a new layer as well with the fediverse.
Tildes is nice in a different way, scratches a bit different of an itch. They alrigh
Noo YOU’RE awesome. Hugs for everyone!
Geh on mai belleh!
Because I’m still here after the movie promotion for some inexplicable reason?
And you agent is probably like, “wtf is a lemming?”
That’s why what they don’t know won’t hurt them, doctor.
Just like my totally real prescriptions.
You dick, that username is amazing. Fuck!
Not gonna lie, this is like my favorite comment, like in anything, ever!
Appreciate it, bud!
Its also funny cuz its like a rodent of some kind but it sounds like something Charlie Kelly would specialize in a certain area of law dedicated to
Don’t get too excited, I am widely regarded as being considerably not awesome
Don’t let that guy with three cows get you down, you’re doing amazing with what you have.
Thank you 🥲🥲
You get me way excited, and not in a sexual way ;)
Edit1: or is it?
Well that really churns me on
Don’t bury the lede like that, bro
