• bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Systemd apparently. Every time someone brings it up, the thread devolves into a religious flame war.

    • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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      I’ve never got this either. I’ve been using Linux exclusively for over 4 years, multiple devices, tested dozens of distros, almost all Systemd-based and I havent ever experienced any problems that the anti-systemd folks talk about.

      Or at least, they were so rare and minimal that I didn’t notice.

      Coming from an IT background dealing with 99% Windows machines and Microsoft products, maybe my bar was on the floor, but Linux has been soooo much more stable and dependable than Windows.

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      fUcK sYsTeMd ItS fAsCiSt BuLlShIt If ThEAy PuT iT iN lInUx AnD tAkE oUr FrEeDoM i WiLl SwItCh To BsD uMmM IdK wHaT iT dOeS rEaLlY sOmEtHiNg WiTh SeRvIcEs I gUeSs FuCk SyStEmD!!11!!

    • Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I used Linux (and some Unix) before systemd was a thing and init scripts are jank. So much boilerplate and that was before things like proper isolation existed and other more modern features.

      I don’t understand why anyone would want that back.

      A replacement of systemd with something else would be fine, but please no more init scripts and pointless run levels.

      • fubo@lemmy.world
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        Upstart was fine. It does the parallel init thing without taking over the whole OS.

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          I almost forgot it existed. It was a slight improvement, but with a whole bunch of new problems (most notable race conditions which were never fixed) and it was made obsolete by systemd.

          It was a good evolutionary step only used by Ubuntu iirc. It was better at that time than the previous init system, but not more than that and it never found wide adaption.

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        Yeah when systemd came out it was over a decade since I touched an init script. So the only difference to me was my computer booted up faster.

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      Systemd is awesome. I used to use init.d and was annoyed when I had to learn systemd instead, but once I did I’m so glad it exists. Declarative is the way to go.