To help contribute, here’s the only meme I’ve ever done, which I did in response to news that Abrams was working on a new ST movie. And after seeing how well the franchise is going with SNW and LD, I feel it’s even more appropriate.

  • @ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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    3511 months ago

    What’s annoying is that he’s good at pacing and creating intrigue. He just never knows how stick the landing without turning the plot into swiss cheese.

    • edric
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      11 months ago

      He’s a great visual director, but he needs a good writer to keep him in check.

        • SSTF
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          11 months ago

          Jorge is a fantastically creative guy. He needs limitations on that creativity, but he is undeniably a foundation of ideas.

          JJ Abrams mostly regurgitates without having any truly unique ideas. Anything unique he does have is either a subversion or an unfinished mystery concept that’s film student tier. Especially in Star Wars and Trek, he took a bunch of the most surface level aspects from the franchises and threw them in without really doing anything with them.

          • Sentient Loom
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            1811 months ago

            His black box storytelling is garbage and the coincidence-based plot in that SW movie was unforgivable.

            • @BeardedSingleMalt@startrek.website
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              1011 months ago

              What’s even funnier is when he tells how he came up with his “mystery box” method. He tries to play it off as some kind of profound insightful story from his childhood about magic shops. But then he explains it as the magic shops would package the junk that didn’t sell into an unmarked “mystery box” to create intrigue which duped people into buying it. He outright admits he’s selling junk

              • Sentient Loom
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                611 months ago

                Yeah. In that Jon Stewart interview he straight up says that he never liked Star Trek and that “Star Trek was always too philosophical for me.”

                He sucks so bad.

            • SSTF
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              511 months ago

              Not in that SW movie. In two of those SW movies.

        • @dejected_warp_core@startrek.website
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          311 months ago

          I’ll add that this didn’t start with the SW prequel movies either. The various essays on the topic typically focus on The Phantom Menace to make this case (see: Red Letter Media); we do love to hate on that movie. But if you look to early drafts of the very first Star Wars movie script, it’s clear that it took a village to make it more than B-movie material. Also, the making-of stories are complete with every kind of move-making person improving and adding to our producer’s vision, right down to salvaging the whole mess in the editing room. It’s been a problem the entire time.

          Now I wonder if THX-1138 and American Graffiti have similar war-stories behind them.