• @uglyduckling81@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    The argument really isn’t against pronouns.

    It’s against censorship. Why shouldn’t I be able to remove that feature from my game if I want to?

    Is it really hurting anyone if I don’t want stupid pronouns in my game?

    I’ll note that I don’t own the game and have never played it. Just an outside observer watching the stupidity.

    • @MikeT@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      NexusMods is a private company with their own conditions for using their services.

      You are not entitled to anything on others’ properties, including your ability to speak.

      There is no freedom of speech here on lemmy.world either for you, they can restrict and block your posts from being seen by others, still their rights to do so.

    • @vanquesse@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      312 years ago

      I can tell you definitively that yes, this debate hurts people. Sending the statement that it’s a valid point of view to consider trans people mentally ill (or worse) harms people. If you look at how our existence is being debated and the consequences of that you would have to be very privileged to not see a problem.

    • @Default_Defect@midwest.social
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      152 years ago

      You can so whatever you want to your installation of the game on your computer. Nexus does not have to host it. No freedoms lost.

      But we all know you’re not using the mod, you just want it up to stick it to the libs.

    • @abraxas@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s not censorship when private groups are doing it. Moreso, I think the entire world has figured out the right answer to the Paradox of Tolerance is intolerance (yes, even censorship).

      There are two reasons said censorship is okay.

      1. Those who hold to these extreme beliefs are happy to censor the opposing viewpoint whether we censor them or not. They see the idea of trans human rights as unworthy of protection.
      2. So long as you allow a false belief to spread, there will always be adherents. When it is a harmful belief, that makes even innocent-seeming propagation of that belief genuinely harmful… which by every moral tradition (and most legal ones) is sufficient to override freedom of speech.

      Remember, there is no free speech absolutism where all speech is protected. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying or ignorant. What we’re arguing about is whether to draw the line at malicious behavior that is already more harmful than speech many of us are already against.

      And from your “don’t want stupid pronouns in my game”, you show you’ve fallen for bullet point #2.

    • @AWittyUsername@lemmy.world
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      -32 years ago

      People say Lemmy isn’t a hivemind but the reaction to your comment proves that this is not the case.

      I’m pro choice either way. If people want to identify as they, them, it. It’s up to them. If people want the option to remove that from their game it’s also up to them. Who cares either way.

      • @Molecular0079@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        This is the wrong take tbh. It isn’t about censorship. The mod itself is a message of hate and deserves to be moderated as such, just like on any other platform.

        Imagine if you were scrolling through NexusMods and you saw a mod that removed characters of your ethnicity or race from the game, or maybe a mod that added say Nazi symbols or something. How would that make you feel? Mods get removed over inappropriate content all the time, this is no different.