Totally

Fair enough. Let’s agree to disagree! 🫲

I think we actually agree but there might be a partial misunderstanding. There was an example another commenter made of their experience with Xcancel. I think that explains it a bit more clearly.

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It would still gain traction before somebody noticed. And what does that say about the community?

Do they agree with the content of your ‘fake’ site? Do they just want to hear something they agree with regardless of the source?

I totally get your point. It’s still busted and dumb.

Never browsing the internet again is the real secret to happiness. It’s about a stone’s throw away for many of us who care deeply about it.

If you only interact with Aurora Store via Tor and don’t use Play Services to prevent potential IPC data leaks and block network of apps with firebase analytics then it helps a decent chunk more.

Of course we can go down the rabbit hole of privacy 'till whatever point suits us. If somebody is determined to use Aurora or is going to use Google in some way or another, then they’re gonna use it.

I don’t see a negative aspect to throwing Tor in the mix at the very least.

If you know there’s a better solution (there is), then you’re probably not the target audience for the post. I mean that in a nice way, I hate Google with a fiery passion too.

Yeah, the result was weird to me too. I’ve been meaning to message the devs to get a concrete answer but I’ve been lazy.

All the rest read, acknowledged and agreed.

(for anyone reading this in the spooky future, we’re mainly discussing browser fingerprinting and other privacy technologies. Context matters, buckos)

Must be entry and exit node dependant then, or perhaps you got a newly designated IP. I’m shocked that Google isn’t nearly immediately blocking the comprehensive list.

Surprisingly enough when using the Origin build of brave I saw no measurable difference in fingerprinting artifacts after reviewing the list from EFF’s Cover Your Tracks and browserleaks.com

Your point about the Origin build reducing privacy via a smaller user pool was a huge concern for me, so those findings were a relief.

Also yes, many will toggle settings such as ‘Ask not to track’ (forget the exact label), to on, or adding identifying, uncommon, and regional extensions (kinda any third party ones tbh) - believing that they’re increasing their privacy but unfortunately, significantly increasing chances of successful fingerprinting.

I don’t blame people, it’s such a cluster fuck and the wisdom of old has drastically changed.

This is a much more concise and probably more effective way to explain a good chunk of what I wrote out.

Ok, and that’s a well-thought out and respectable position. I wish you shared that level of insight from the start, but thank you. In principle I very much agree with you, actually.

And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your political activities (which includes your online comments and advocacy) are quite literally in that same paragraph lol

I do advocate for them. Not that I am obligated to prove it to you on any way, but here’s a link of me commenting on Lemmy 8 months ago, in direct relation to First Nations peoples.

You can’t build good faith with people when you don’t give good faith arguments. Perhaps it’s worth contemplating if you’re really trying to change something in the world, or if you’re just frustrated and venting on the internet.

Either is fine, but let’s be honest with ourselves. Your comments lead me to believe you may be in the latter group.

It can be hard to discern facts from opinions nowadays because as you noted, so many people assert their opinions as fact. Especially online, and especially on modern social media.

It helps to find people and developers and communities that you trust, and compare their knowledge with whatever else you hear or read. This way, you might just be able to roam around just a little more peacefully knowing that you are secure in your understanding.

There’s a lot of noise on the internet, and much of it is unfortunately not worth engaging with.

Fight for what you believe in. I would be a hypocrite to tell you otherwise. I’m just saying, you’re not likely to win any support for a cause if you aren’t able to show people that they’ll be more accepted within a new system.

It’s fine to disagree on semantics or ideology but you need the people who are fed-up to be on your side if you want the numbers to create any sort of viable movement.

I get it, it’s frustrating, it’s slow, there’s infighting. It’s not to say your approach is wrong, just that the environment we were thrust into requires quite a bit more tolerance and understanding of those outside of your ideology, that is, if you want to do something more than argue with each other.

Use what you wanna use my man, but turning browsers into the equivalent of the ‘console wars’ that people get swept up in is a bit silly.

At the very least let me know why you think Firefox gargles balls in a bit more detail and how Brave by comparison refuses to gargle.

That would be a bit more insightful for us all!

Hey man, I appreciate the input but firstly I don’t see how the generation of people applies in this case in any meaningful way.

I can understand being frustrated with shitty aspects of the hyper-capitalistic society many of us live in and predatory nature of the modern free-market. But if you wanna make a difference please try expressing it in a way that encourages discussion and unity, rather than dissuade it.

Per your username, I’m all for socialist vibes. My wish is more of a transition into a true socialist democracy, which isn’t ‘pure’ socialism per se, but we’re on the same team. In fact, the working class is on the same team. But man, you’re not giving off socialist vibes imo, and that’s the opposite effect that your username implies.

Just my thoughts.

Dude I get it, I live too much of my life analyzing network traffic, blocking garbage in pi-hole. If I decide to trust, I still need to verify. Not trusting Brave, especially in its default config, is absolutely justified.

That was quite literally my exact experience, like 100% exact.

So what I’m hoping at least is that they will release an Origin build for Android so we can truly have the stuff removed rather than just disabled.

It’s really kind of a shame, I tried so hard with Ironfox and eventually I noticed I just stopped opening it anymore, and that’s when I had to make a choice.

Yeah man stick to your principles and if you’ve been happy with it for so long then it would be silly for you to try it anyhow.

Them earning my trust was pretty unexpected for me as well. It’s a rare thing for me to 180 on something like I did.

Hopefully my trust is not misplaced. No doubt in my mind that they’ve permanently lost a huge subset of customers who would actually be very interested in what they’re doing otherwise.