TeaWithDani

We’ll they said they only scanned stuff that would have allowed them implicitly, now did they really respect that? Their ‘‘stack’’ is public, so people can review it. It’s opensource, people can audit it at least.

The big giants can lift whatever they want from Github and we wouldn’t have the means to prove it. I’m sure Microsoft is using private repos as they like. It’s not a coincidence that Copilot was one of the earlier coding LLMs.

Yeah, they aren’t supposed to scrape that stuff. That’s kind of where I’m wondering if they limited their collections.

Yeah, its a strategy when you want someone to understand something they clearly haven’t. You restate it in different words. You may have addressed it, that doesn’t mean you understood my position. I don’t mean that to sound bitchy btw. 😅 We just chatting. We cool. 👉 👉

You’re just refusing to engage with point. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Would you find it acceptable if their claims at face value were true?

Why are you assuming I am excusing their behaviour?

Sure but you moved the goalpost from ‘‘they weren’t allowed’’ to “they aren’t being honest”. There’s people in this thread who are in the repos, so we can find that out without assuming.

Also, at least their model is opensource and can easily be selfhosted on consumer hardware. Helps with your datacenter point from earlier. Like if this project does what it says its supposed to do, it’s genuinely interesting. If they are pushing the boundaries of permissive licensing then yeah that is really concerning.

Their claim was they followed the licenses and only used code they were implicitly allowed to use. I’d like to see if that was just astroturf and bullshit.

Honestly, though this is one of the reasons why people prefer copyleft and avoid permissive licenses, because yeah anyone can profit monetarily off your work otherwise.

I do not believe a permissive license has any notion of consent. You can’t stop someone from forking your code as long as they follow the rules of the license, like crediting you.

Even in GPL, you can’t stop someone from using your code, see Gnome’s recent arguements with Mint over their usage of an old version of their Calender app.

Others in the thread have mentioned we’ll see permissive licenses with exceptions for Ai in the near future. It’s a solution because that door is currently open.

But if it’s permissively licenced, couldn’t I just copy bits and pieces for my own project without asking?

Like I understand asking is always better and an opt in process for “the stack” or wtv would have been better received. Nevertheless, did they really have a legal obligation, rather than moral obligation, to ask given how this is licensed?

Taking GPL code would be a different situation right? They would have to also include it in their model creation… which theoretically they just could.

In theory, it’s all supposed to be permissively licenced code and the opt out is more than other models give. I saw Starcoder as one of the more ethical models. I thought the underlying principals to be fair at least.

I’m interested in this gut hostility to it regardless. Kind of shows how you can’t present LLMs in a positive angle no matter what. They shouldn’t be using anything GPL or similar.

Yeah… I pay money for 2 cores and 4gb RAM. I’d read the fine print on those free services.

I’m not comfortable with free services anymore. Nor am I comfortable dealing with a company subject to the Cloud Act.

Any plans to support FreeBSD in the future? Or mainly focusing on a docker solution?

Fuck yeah! This slaps. Brb while I get my headphones to listen to it again.

We should celebrate these kinds of changes. Like its great that they’ve already achieved so much and not just that, but left behind a group of folks just as committed in the future of the project.

I always feel that posterity of your work beyond your own contribution is the real achievement and a sign of humility.

Oh, I’ve been there! lol Yeah, you sometimes don’t expect to have to update an entire stack, not just one thing. Possible the companion app image was just released later and it wasn’t on you either. :P

But yeah, give the cron job a try. I’d be curious to try it out myself! In theory your webinstance shouldn’t cut out unless you click on something the exact moment the container is resetting.

What kind of issues have you had? How did you resolve them?

I haven’t used this tool specifically, but anything involving Youtube is always going to be an uphill battle. In the instance of a video downloader like Channeltube, you frequently need to feed it fresh cookies to make sure Youtube doesn’t flag it as a bot. I assume this is a similar situation.

The requirements also list ‘‘2gb if you restart frequently’’ so there might be a memory leak issue, or the way it’s setup means the RAM usage will increase in perpetuity.

I would just script a task to restart the docker container every hour. Shouldn’t be too much a hassle, you’re unlikely to ever notice since it shouldn’t take more than a few seconds. I would track its RAM usage over a few days too. See if there’s something fishy happening. Something like Beszel will let you track your docker socket, so usage per container. Preferably left on read only imo.