Okay, so I tried Tuta and found the UI clunky and buggy. I tried Mailbox.org and their billing is a mess and they took my money without crediting the account. *(I have a pending ticket, we’ll see what they said.)
I do have a proton mail account, but I haven’t given them $ yet because of… well you know. Sadly, out of the three I’ve tried their product is the best.
Wondering what to check out next. I really want to ditch the G but I’m evaluating services before I jump off the ledge this time.
I use disroot, it’s great and the only email service I’ve seen that’s private but still supports IMAP, but your email arent encrypted by default unless you encrypt inside an email client like thunderbird and you can also get custom domains if you donate them money for life as well as use any email client you like if you don’t like one specific UI
Went to check them out and turned right back around and left.


Honestly, bring on the down votes but Proton is a massive, massive improvement over google. Bring your own domain into it and then you can switch providers at a later time hassle free if they do something annoying enough to warrant the switch.
Ive seen the hate, I agree; fuck the CEO, but compared to google it is wildly the better the better choice
Are you aware that Andy Yen is forcing a massive AI coding adoption? Proton may be better now but I doubt if will continue to be anything close to stable or secure within a year.
Yes, I am fully up to date. As a lemmy user, I’m not sure how its possible to not be lol. My advise is advise that can be flexible. thats my current setup. If proton stops being what I want or expect, I’ll bounce. Ive spent the past few months setting up to make that easier, but with a family fully on the plan, its not as simple as just swapping things over…
Also, as someone in the software world, there a a massive difference between the CEO understanding of how AI is used and how engineering uses it…
Posteo?
Posteo.
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Fastmail. They do just mail and aren’t attempting to be a full Google Suite replacement.
Been there for almost a decade with zero issues.
Fastmail has servers in the US, which is not great for privacy. Even if you use their EU server there’s still a copy of your data in the US:
Resilient replicas of your data will live in the US (for now). As we only have one location in Europe so far, the geographically separate copy will remain on servers in one of our US locations.
Still better than what the Proton CEO is doing.
Given that it’s November, if you aren’t in a hurry you might want to check whether whatever provider you decide to go with had a Black Friday sale last year. I wouldn’t let a sale be a deciding factor on what to use, but if a service you want to try is likely to have a sale in a few weeks you may as well wait.
Fastmail
Using it for 2 or so years now, never had problems
I use Fastmail with my own domain. It’s great.
I use Posteo, but Thundermail seems okay (if you can overlook Mozilla).
besides taking money from Google, is there other issues with Mozilla?
They seem pretty down with AI, they lay off their employees way more than they should, and they leech off of open-source contributions.
It may be a non-profit, but the people in charge of it seem suspiciously wealthy.
Soverin
Buy a personal domain with mythic beasts and use their default settings to set it up as a mailbox, then connect to it with Thunderbird
- Forward Email
- Self-hosted email: Stalwart
wait for it, another new one that isn’t corrupt (yet) will spring up any time now to keep a protocol that was never private and by all rights should be left to die, alive.
I dunno, I think it’s pretty good.
Selfhosted
I know this is the best method for most reasons, but … I’m tired.
Try it. Show me your whisdom of how you maintain an email server as a webadmin, let alone one whose job is not maintaining it
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