Clear as mud, where the timeline thing is concerned.
What I would not give to never hear about another Star Trek film “in the works” before it actually starts filming.
I’d settle for just hearing about a Star Trek film that isn’t dark and edgy.
They only said it’s darker than the other films this pair has written… which is the likes of Spider-Man Homecoming. I wouldn’t worry about it.
Ooooh yeah I see that they directed Honor Among Thieves (which I think was kinda awesome!) which, yeah, was hardly dark. I’m slightly more interested to see what they come up with now!
it actually starts filming
Now you’re dreaming.
Star Trek taught me to have hope for the future
There’s hope, and then there’s delusion…
TrekMovie playing the clickbait game with the best of 'em.
No legacy characters, nobody that you’ve met before. A different time, not a different timeline per se, but it’s a little further in the future.
I don’t actually think this is very ambiguous?
TrekMovie playing the clickbait game with the best of 'em.
The guys being interviewed didn’t even say they wanted to make a darker Trek, just that the story they’re working on is darker than what they’ve done before, for whatever value that has.
I think whether or not the writers know what the word “timeline” means is the ambiguous part.
Edit/P.S.: Especially in a SF context where they’re not being clear if “timeline” means “somewhere else on the established timeline” or “a new alternate one”. Especially if they’re going to also name drop the Kelvin timeline in the same breath.
Especially in a SF context where they’re not being clear if “timeline” means “somewhere else on the established timeline” or “a new alternate one”.
Unfortunately, I think that ship hath sailed. The word is used to mean both things fairly interchangeably, by fans and professionals alike.
In this context, I’m pretty comfortable assuming that they’re looking at a new era within the regular ol’ Prime Universe.
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Actually I completely agree with your assumption. It’s just the way they can’t seem to express themselves clearly about it that’s getting under my skin. And if they just would do that, it might slow down the billion clickbait “Paramount is rebooting Star Trek” stories out there.
I do wonder if they’re dancing around NDAs and junk like that, too - writers really don’t like to talk about stuff in the early stages.
Could be. Maybe they should just, I don’t know, stop talking about it then. 😂
Remember kids, the easiest way to not violate an NDA is to say nothing.
Yeah, they only said it’s “sort of a different timeline” in reference to the Kelvin films. Fact is, for a good portion of the movie going public the prime timeline is a different timeline than the one they’re used to.
Hey how about we make a Star Trek movie that has nothing to do with and does not even resemble Star Trek. At this point just make an original movie.
I will assume it will be shit until proven otherwise. I would love to be pleasantly surprised though.
Daley: Entirely. No legacy characters, nobody that you’ve met before. A different time, not a different timeline per se, but it’s a little further in the future. Goldstein: Sort of a different timeline.
Thanks for clearing that up, guys.
I guess it could be said that “darker” is relative. Given the kind of light hearted movies they have made before this, it could very well be just a more serious movie compared to Honor Among Thieves. Which is a great flick.
With that said, I wonder if the reason they have been so bad as explaining this movie is because Paramount are telling them to be vague. So it could also just be they suck at being vague.
That movie is indeed fantastic, but I don’t think it has quite the tone I would want from a Star Trek movie.
I think their “Crimson Tide” comparison is pretty darned compelling. That’s a serious movie with a lot of tension, but it’s hardly a heavy slog.
And it’s hardly a “dark” movie too. Dark could honestly mean series or intense.
Indeed, and if you look at what Daley has said about this Trek film in the past…
I think the portrayal of Starfleet and the people that work within it have always been generally idealized versions of what the future could be. And while this [script] isn’t a cynical or nihilistic take on it, I think it does acknowledge that there are some bad apples in every institution that can have a strong voice and can really make an impact on that institution and everything it stands for.”
Serious, but not cynical or nihilistic.
So another admiral out to line their own pockets/get revenge story where the crew have to realise this legendary figure is in fact a total arse and needs to be removed from this dimension immediately?
The Mirror Universe still canon?
Nice to see it’s not dead!
