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    Anyone know when this started becoming ominous? I’m sure every TV in the sixties didn’t have a microphone on their remotes; I am sure pretty much each one being released today has.

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      You know the irony of this is? My ex-fiances father was labeled as schizophrenic. I mean he was by textbook definition. One day, I would take her to visit him, he says that computers are tracking you. Now, I brushed it off at the time, probably a conspiracy theory right? but I did think about it.

      L3 was tracking internet data already, at least, in the early 2000’s. A little game of what’s connecting to my computer showed me that, but I didn’t know what it was at the time. Well now I know, g-sec company has been tracking us from routers for over twenty years; same company after the merger that makes EOTECHs. So the puzzle pieces came together.

      I kind of wondered if he really was schizophrenic or medicated to be so? As an a example, tramadol made me have auditory hallucinations that I’ve never experience on acid or mushrooms (college lol).

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    FYI most modern TVs have a second microphone actually in the display that’s actually used for the nefarious tracking and listening for assistant wake words to save remote battery life

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    Or just buy a cheap 3rd party off brand universal remote. Dont have to use the one that comes with the TV

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      This is the far easier approach, but if you live somewhere densely populated (like an apartment building) keep in mind it’s been rumored that smart TVs can make a mesh network to upload data without a connection. Though to my knowledge this has never been definitively shown to be true

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        What year do you think we’ll see the first repo for a Raspberry Pi spoofer?

        Something that can act as a “peer” and intercept and blackhole the traffic.

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          Has to be proven that it occurs first I suppose. But it would also be a difficult thing to workaround. Like in your example the only thing stopping them is a firmware update that dictates the tv connect to as many other clients as possible and blacklist clients that can’t receive a challenge code or success packet or something

          Of course I’m sure if that happened people much smarter than me would spoof all that too, make a spoofer that creates dozens of pseudo devices, break challenges and such, etc. cat and mouse game. Luckily these things are usually super lazily implemented by the ad scum but frustratingly that’s bc dedicating resources to this is not worth it usually (eg many people, a sizable and increasing percentage of users, may simply not connect their tv to the internet but once a raspberry pi or docker container or whatever is involved you’re in strictly nerd territory)

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    Things will become more obscure and harder to disable. In fact since you own nothing and you’ll be happy, youre damaging government property and the police are already dispatched to take you to a totally cool and totally legal prison slave camp.

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        I thought that greentext was so outrageous when it first appeared, and now its probably going to be reality at some point.

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          Youtube asking you to say the brand name or the jingle to skip the add. You heard it here first

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      Remotes aren’t complicated enough to hide the microphone. It’s more likely that tvs ditch the remote entirely and be voice controlled only, mute people be damned.

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    What? Because I have to Open my control, I understand almost nothing about technology. Don’t tell me it has a chip that controls ever

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    Do people here still have their smartphones or are these things the first on the microphone hitlist?

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        Yea, im stuck with not flashable phones sadly amd everytime i read something on here I get kinda sick

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          The Pixel 9a is getting cheap and looking for them on the used market is even better, do yourself the favor and get one!

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      my shitphone, I mean iphone is really pissed that the case (water resistant) I have blocks mic, and well the audio as well lol. And the aluminum tape on the cameras makes it glitch up so much.

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    It’s so f’ing simple. JUST DON’T CONNECT YOUR TV TO YOUR WIFI. Get your streams from a separate device.

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      Yeah, that’s what i did, but i had to dig through menus turning shit off because I kept getting pop-ups telling me it needed to connect to the Internet.

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    No, you’re all getting it wrong.

    Collect books, and use the microplastic that you have ingested over the years to build a water-tight caccoon in a cave to protect them.

    Everything else simply requires rocks and/or genitalia. Or the absence of rocks and/or genitalia.

    Such is a way.

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    Just curious, what kind of batteries are powering the remote and if rechargeable, how often does it need charging? Not saying they wouldn’t do such things, still a good preventative measure, but I’d be surprised if it could sustain telemetry with only the power of AAA batteries in a typical remote.

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        Smart enough to be able to remove the mic from the remote, not smart enough to figure out that its not constantly recording for a year on 2 AAA batteries.

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          Dude of course it’s not constantly recording, but the fact that it can record on two AAA batteries even every now and then for over a year is ridiculous

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            Yea that’s true. Does it have a microphone button your remote at least? Also, my original comment was in jest, if it didn’t come across that way.

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              No it didn’t come across that way, even after re-reading it, it sounds serious.

              Also yeah, it wasn’t trying to hide the fact, it’s advertised to have voice control and has a button for it. For some reason it says “you have to be connected to the internet to use voice control” if I try to test it which makes no fucking sense tho lmao.

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    Another solution is to cover the mic with some thick gum that can be easily removed. Then it can be sold as it was later.