Carl is outside in his boxers trying to get his girlfriend’s cat out of a tree when everything with a roof on the planet is destroyed and the smaller number of survivors are made to compete in an intergalactic dungeon game similar to D&D. If this sounds kind of dumb, I described it correctly; it’s kind of dumb. It’s also fairly entertaining and has a good amount of heart. People who have played any sort of role playing game, like World Of Warcraft, will probably be extra amused.
By your description 99% of SciFi is fantasy. You’re just cherrypicking what you feel is “pure” sci-fi and what isn’t.
The Expanse, The Culture novels, Foundation, etc… is just fantasy by your description. I could use your rules to pick apart most sci-fi novels and explain how they are just fantasy.
A little piece of life advice, unless you’re in chemistry or metallurgy, purity tests always make you the bad guy.
The expanse is scifi, it uses believable extensions of our knowledge, they still have thrust mass, they still have deceleration. Thats probably one of the best examples to use as as scifi actually.
Haven’t consumed the culture.
And if you’ve read Foundations by Asimov and his other books, it’s all explained how the weirdness is an extension of current knowledge (60 years ago). Asimov created the genre, and he’s written nothing that’s fantasy.
None of those use handwaving to explain the “technology”.
Unlike DCC, unlike Star Wars, unlike Star Trek, unlike MCU, etc.
Read Asimovs definitions on what the difference between fantasy and scifi, he’s the one that pioneered the genre and was editor on countless magazines and other written media.
Magic alien space goo, psychics, etc…
Your distinctions are arbitrary and purely a function of how you feel about certain properties.
Enjoy your gatekeeping purity tests, I hope they bring you comfort.
They aren’t, they are the foundational and distinguishing differences between the scifi and fantasy genres.
Fantasy doesn’t explain the “magic” or the “tech” it’s all handwaved and is just there as part of the story.
Scifi on the other hand, the technology is the foundation of the story, and the rest is built off of that.
Both can use parts of each other, but how the story is built is which dictates which is the primary category it should be in.
If you can’t understand something, and someone is trying to explain it, does that make them gatekeeping?
So using those non arbitrary definitions, it’s pretty easy to see DCC is fantasy, along with Star Trek and wars
Foundation, expanse, Robots, they all fall into the other.
Using only excerpts from the books themselves. Explain to me how the proto molecule works without one iota of handwaiving.
That’s the combining with the fantasy genre, but everything in the slow and otherwise WAS explained with physics. Not well in the show, but the books yeah.
You’re also ignoring the key basis of the story being the technology and other parts. That’s not gonna help you comprehend it.
You’re hopeless
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t force it to drink.
If you’re gonna ignore established standards, and misinterpret what I’m saying because you think you’re correct, you aren’t gonna learn anything from that place of ignorance.