Spoilers for Spider-Man: Brand New Day, obviously.
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Phenomenal.
First, yes, Sadie Sink is playing Jean Grey. Ok, onto film spoilers.
My favorite scene has to be the “unforgivable” MJ fake out. I didn’t believe it, but I wanted to believe it. Jean Grey called it, true loves kiss breaks the spell. Fucking liar. Absolutely crushed. It also perfectly shows us how great Peter is. He can forgive Jean for something unforgivable and be her friend.
Also a highlight to the cinematography, especially during the fight with The Hand. Spider-Man flips, the camera flips. Swordfighting fun. Just solid.
And of the course the post credits. We have a Spider-Man in New York. We have a Spider-Man in space. This film showed us BOTH Spider-Men! Next up must be “The Punisher goes to Space!”
I love the fact that the kiss did not break the spell. I was about to be so disappointed with such cheesy predictable writing and then they flip it, and I was relieved, but also enjoyed the great writing behind it.
It was perfect. I hope they don’t ever break/undo the spell, but if they do it at this point I won’t be disappointed since this was done so perfectly.
It was one of those great “theater scenes” where everyone is excited and trying to figure it out and then… crushed.
In the comics he can break the spell by just telling people that knew him before who he is. They just suddenly remember everything. I always thought that was a cheap way to retcon who knows his identity. I like this better.
Also, in the comics, Hulk remembers who Spidey is because he wasn’t present when the spell was cast, or something like that, it’s been a while. I think they alluded to that when Hulk stopped beating on Peter when he lost the mask.
Well maybe MJ isn’t Peter’s true love - I mean a bros handshake sure made Ned remember him lol.
I mean he’s the CEO of Sex, Peter’s making the right choice.
But actually I think Ned was just quick to connect some dots and I don’t think he suddenly remembered Peter Parker. I think, like MJ, he knew he was missing something and he channeled that into finding Spider-Man.
Ned and Peter were quick to bond when hanging out with MJ. As Spider-Man leaves MJ tells Peter to be safe, causing Ned to ask if Spider-Man’s name is Peter. Later when Peter introduced himself, as Peter, there is a pause from Ned. Flower guy? Didn’t he have a different name? Wait Spider-Man’s name is Peter? And then, just like riding a bike they do their special handshake.
Like MJ, Ned doesn’t really know Peter Parker again, but Peter fits in whatever the emptiness the spell left behind.
I’m not sure how to describe this, but I didn’t like Jean Grey and found her portrayal a unbelievable and inconsistent.
Why would what aunt May said reach her knowing what she did to people and especially with her reaction to Frank’s memories of his family being murdered in front of him just being a little funny quip.
Especially hated how vague on purpose they made hers and Peter’s dialogue just to create fake tension.
Not counting the fact that Pete might have without too much difficulty figured out that something was going on, all she had to do was mention her sister and her main antagonist would have helped her save her.She was just very cruel and making sociopathic comments all the way through I just can’t see what May said touching her in any way.
May was being the mother that she didn’t have.
Jean and her sister talk about their mother abandoning them once they got their powers. Jean even tries to rationalize it as what else could her mother do.
Jean and Peter are also both living lives of isolation. Jean only had her sister so it doesn’t take much for her to turn antagonistic. Peter had a stronger foundation, but even he starts to slip, he throws Scorpion into a police car and nearly kills the officer inside.
Peter is able to find his way back because he finally reaches out and interacts with MJ and Ned. He has a friend. That’s all Jean needed. Jean needed someone, she needed a friend.
When Jean sees Peter’s memory she sees the kindness she’s been missing. She tries to dismiss it as just a memory, but Peter says he’ll be her friend. Jean wants to be a good person, but if everyone treats you as a monster, you act like a monster.
To add onto Mimicjar. Jean was inside Peter and I assume she got to feel like what it means to be loved by a mother and be someone with powers. Peter did not let himself get consumed even though everything pointed to him doing so. Frank was an example of what Peter could turn into, a cautionary tale. She was in both of their heads and chose Peter’s path.
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Bigger picture, I suspect the events of BND took place after Doomsday. That could account for the Staten Island stuff and help explain Peter’s absence from DD until he gets pulled into that fight.
Great movie, really well done all around. Writing, acting, cinematography, music, cgi…the webslinging was excellent. I want a lot more Peter and Frank!
I’m not yet sold on Sadie Sink as JG, but I’m open to the idea. Her going hard in the paint evil and then having the quick turnaround was the weakest part of the movie for me. I know they were showing May’s positive impact and how it carries on–which is a great legacy for a character we all love–but it comes at the expense of both believability and JG’s development. Her story going forward and how SS portrays it will decide whether it works.
Probably my favourite of the Tom Holland Spider-Man films. It balanced a Peter-centric story pretty well with all the larger MCU references. My wife, who has seen half of Homecoming and little else MCU loved it, and didn’t get lost with any of the tie-ins. It created a great internal conflict for Peter that reflected well in Jean’s story. Got a little bit teary in the final Aunt May sequence.
I do feel like it could have benefited from shaving about 15-20 mins off. The movie felt like it reached a climax, and then there was another 20-30 minutes for the second real climax. Shaving some of the scenes off the front end could have tightened the whole experience. What I would remove I can’t say though.
longer movies are fine for me. It probably got longer because they tried to add other characters to at least link it to the MCU or that they had to have sufficient backstory so new viewers could still follow.
Long movies to me are kind of a double-edged sword.
Great when I’m going to see an anticipated film in a theater, and I’m digging it and don’t want it to end.
But annoying if I ever want to watch it again at home.
Villain was cool. Didn’t see her coming, even after the point where it was probably obvious.
Some things were a little tough to suspend disbelief on. Peter really didn’t try to befriend his old buddies all those years, even when he was in their apartment and saw Ned was Spider-Man obsessed? Jean going out of her way to target and mock Spider-Man was weird. And then just instantly being cool with him after the climax. That, and her randomly being able to possess Bruce but not Peter.
Surprised they didn’t have Jean hop out the moment Spidey attacked MJ. He was holding her by the throat over a ledge, imagine if she snapped back to herself right then. Seemed like a perfect setup for drama, to make her afraid of him. But also kinda glad they didn’t go that route. Also kinda glad his friends weren’t overly resistant to believing him.
I don’t keep up with all the things, so not sure if Punisher (and his background) got introduced already or assumed here. I only vaguely remember Black Widow getting replaced, even tho I saw that movie. And Damage Control? Also seemed like they assumed I knew what that was.
Peter really didn’t try to befriend his old buddies all those years
He was in New York, they were away at MIT.
Basically as soon as they were back in New York he did try and befriend that again.
I do think it would have been funny to see Spider-Man in the Boston area, but the film could only show so much.
