I guess it’s time to leave Ubuntu as a new user and switch to a new distro. Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Mint were my choice, but their base, Ubuntu, is becoming “bloated”, and turning to a latest computers’ OS. And I think it will affect its derivatives. Which distro would you suggest to switch to. I aint rich. I’m already aware of Fedora and its xfce, kde spins, Opensuse Leap and Tumbleweed, Debian and its derivatives, and Void. Are you planning to switch too.
I hate when people here complain of “bloat” since often it just means “there’s this one thing I don’t use and it irrationally offends me by its existence”.
You can uninstall just about anything you don’t want. So very much not like Windows in that regard.
Are you running out of space? Out of memory? Or simply offended that some functionality you don’t like exists?
You’ll be fine with Mint. Even the Ubuntu based one. Just keep a separated partition for /home, then jumping ship to LMDE becomes trivial.
The number one culprit of undesirable cornering behavior is incorrect tire pressure.
Linux Mint is generally less bloated than Ubuntu. For instance, is comes without snap (at least it used to. I’m not aware if things changed). If you want to discard Ubuntu totally, there is Mint Debian Edition. That’s it. You don’t want the struggle with getting used to fundamentally different distros like OpenSUSE or Fedora. Trust me.
Can you give some examples of the bloat?
GNOME desktop and background processes others distros don’t have?
Classifying gnome as bloat is a good one :D
I think a lot of the hate is snaps. Ubuntu has pushed a technology on the users that is unpopular before (Unity) and largely ignored the criticism, which is a Windows-like behavior. I can attest that snaps really sucked on old hardware when they first rolled out. I haven’t really used Ubuntu since 22.04, so I can’t comment on the current state of snaps, other than to say that a buddy swears they are way faster now. It’s a rock and a hard place situation for Canonical though, because if Firefox from apt crashes, Ubuntu gets hate, not Firefox.
I think I switched to a Mint daily driver after that horrible Unity came out. It was soooo bad.
Anyways, Canonical did some.bad shit around 2011 or so. I can’t remember what it was now that there are many orgs that I’ve banned from my life for privacy issues, fascist support, etc. I’ve avoided them since. Back then I was using Mint with MATE and no issues. If Canonical was affiliated back then, I must have been oblivious while using Mint.
I hope I never see a snap again. Maybe they are better now than last time I have to deal with one, but why when we have flatpaks and appimages? Why do they suck so much?
Debian (sic Armbian, Dietpi) user here. I don’t have this problem.
I find that straight Debian takes a bit more work to get to daily driver territory than some other distros, but I do like the balance of Linux Mint Debian Edition. Plus, I had a weirdo problem with LMDE once, and Clem actually responded himself with a fix, so thumbs up there!
I have little love for Canonical, but I wouldn’t go that far. What makes an OS ‘the Windows’ of something is in my eyes the heaps of useless surveillance, which ubuntu lacks.
I’ve been using opensuse tumbleweed for quite some time on my systems, and been pretty happy with it, in case you need an endorsement.
Of course I don’t planning any switch. For me it works perfectly. Access to one of the biggest repo, constant support, Ubuntu PRO with extended support timeline, snaps with needed software, flatpak near that all for missing software plus I building my own repo with COSMIC desktop. I have everything for my workflow. Why switching? Btw. I don’t see any bloat here. With minimal install it comes with minimal set of packages. Just a most required one.
Are you saying Ubuntu isnt slow? The bloat only comes from the pre-installed apps, snap, and gnome desktop?
Sorry, it’s too much :D
You only noticed recently?
Yes, just recently, as a new user.
I understand why people choose to leave Ubuntu and of course am OK with it. I for example don’t like Snaps, too.
I have been visiting and leaving Ubuntu for 15 years and now I’m back again (coming from years of Fedora).
I wouldn’t say it’s more bloated, nor does it require more resources. But I prefer the adapted Gnome version where you can minimize windows and everything is a little less hassle (in my case configuring the printer).
In your case, I’d try out Fedora. Its installation is quite minimal.
