What VPN have you switched to after the Mullvad situation. I have looked at nym and ivpn. But don’t know if they are any good.
I switched away from Mullvad when they killed port forwarding years ago. I have used AirVPN since and it has always been pretty good!
What do you guys use port forwrding for?
Torrenting
one of the few good things about living in a fuckedup country is that I dont even use a vpn for torrenting.
Proton
I use AirVpn as they allow port forwarding and are reasonably priced. They are no logs and allow payment through non-bank methods
yeah i’m switching to ivpn
AirVPN does good for torrenting I use it now that mulvad doesnt support port forwarding
It really depends on whether you care or not about State Surveillance.
If you don’t and only really care about general privacy and things like not getting letters from lawyers demanding money because you torrented something, then any no-logs VPN will do:
- For starters just having a VPN means it’s not just a case of a lawyer claiming to represent a copyright owner demanding from a local ISP the identification of the user of a specific IP at a specific time (which many countries have made laws to facilitate, so they don’t even need a court order) so now they probably need a court order
- Then if the VPN is in a different legal jurisdiction said court order needs to be from a court there, not where you are. Even if said lawyer are there and get that court order, they still need the ISP in a different country to give them the information of the user whose IP is in the VPN logs, so that’s a lot more complex.
- Then if the VPN has no-logs, they can’t even get the user IP address because it’s nowhere to be found. They would need a court order to install what’s basically wiretapping equipment or software in that VPN in order to catch a user whilst they’re actually using that connection to torrent some file or other. No court is going to be issuing a wiretapping order for a VPN provider to catch a non-commercial case of copyright violation.
If, however, you care about State Surveillance, then merely a no-logs VPN isn’t necessarily safe anymore. You see several countries, such as the US and UK, have special surveillance courts (such as FISA courts in the US) which can issue court orders to facilitate data access for mass surveillance WHICH THE RECIPIENTS CANNOT PUBLICLY ADMIT THEY’RE UNDER. In other words, the wiretapping equipment/software to allow bulk tracking of what users are doing might already be installed at the no-logs VPN (and they cannot tell you about it otherwise they’ll literally end up in jail) so it’s not in fact no-logs because the likes of the NSA is actually logging it all. Any VPN hosted in such legal jurisdictions can be the target of it, any company registered in such legal jurisdictions can be the target of it and it doesn’t matter how honest and pro-privacy the people in those companies are - I vaguely remember the case of a secure e-mail provider in the US (forgot the name now), who tried to fight one such court order and ultimately the only way they found to do so was to close down the service and their company.
So if you VPN company is for example registered in Gibraltar (which is a British jurisdiction) or the US and they’re still operating, they’re very likely compromised and even if they’re not, they can silently be compromise at any time.
If you care about avoiding mass surveillance from actual governments, then beyond the usual autocratic nations you’ll want to avoid VPN exit points in and VPN providers based in or registered in at the very least the US, UK and Israel and any of the regions under their jurisdiction (for example Gibraltar and the Channel Islands for Britain, Puerto Rico for the US), probably more broadly all the 5-Eyes nations (so, the first 2 plus Canada, Australia and New Zealand).
So check were that “wonderful no-logs VPN” company is registered and were is based and avoid those in countries with insane civil society surveillance legislation like the Patriot Act and even avoid exit nodes of other VPN companies in such countries.
Airvpn… few servers, but reliable on different machines and no problems.
I’m a happy IVPN user. Small team, privacy enthusiasts, transparent, great products. Just a heads up, some IVPN subscription tiers offer MailX (email aliases, like SimpleLogin), ModDNS (like Contro-D or NextDNS) and Portmaster (app firewall, and SPN network, inspired on TOR). It’s hard to compete!
Had a bad experience with Nym. It’s not compatible with GrapheneOS. It runs, but there’s a data limit that in my experience kept getting artificially hit by the forming and breaking of connections that occurs when switching GOS profiles. Maybe this happens less on stock Android?
Regardless, I had to keep contacting their support for extensions. In 6 years, I haven’t yet had to contact Mullvad support. It just works!
I experienced DNS leaks when Nym claimed it was ‘fully’ connected. Mullvad.net could ‘see’ where I was located. That’s not considering that in general the connection with Nym was much slower than Mullvad. Nym offered me an extended free trial, but I haven’t claimed it yet. Reckon they’ll need another couple of years to iron out the obvious issues.
In summary, Nym felt like a very early prototype much more than a production-ready service.
ivpn is the only one on the list privacy-guides recommends other than mullvad and proton - obviously their recommendations aren’t law but a good starting point for looking into things yourself
I use self-hosted on a cloud bought by crypto, but it’s primarily because my relatives living in a country with almost all VPN solutions and protocols blocked, so you always need to figure everything out yourself and try something new.
What cloud service would you recommend? Maybe I’m over thinking I but I was looking into offshore VPS. But don’t know if I really want to go through it all.
I wouldn’t advertize anything, but some criterias to filter by: crypto payments available (that’s a good scrutiny even if you don’t pay with it), server location and legal address not in the vault 7 if that matters. The VPN installation itself is pretty easy, you can find guides on the internet or ask AI. I believe, on the official OpenVPN pages there might be a simple guide as well. You just need to use terminal and that’s all.
Im broke as hell so I’m using pia right now, I very much regret it I will probably switch to nym as soon as my subscription runs out.
What’s to regret?
Generally dodgy marketing (prioritising sensationalism over truth), also owned by an Israeli company. (yikes)
American based VPN providers are a no no.
Kape Technologies.
???
Owned by a company with dubious motivations, who owns multiple VPN’s under different branding as what is undeniably an effort to deceive people, and based out of a country famous for selling spyware.
Toxic and potentially risky ownership.
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Host one yourself on a cloud host that accepts cryptocurrency and asks no questions, if you want to do piracy. Otherwise if you’re just trying to get your traffic cloaked for privacy reasons, a digital ocean droplet or a hetzner instance running OpenVPN is plenty.
maybe a dumb question but isn’t a hetzner instance directly connected to one’s identity? I remember when setting up mine, they asked for ID verification. If so then the outgoing IP which is public is linked to my ID and would be a bigger risk of itself. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Yeah, but if you want privacy, it’s a fine idea to prevent public networks and such from examining your traffic patterns. My personal main use case for a self-hosted VPN is for using public networks for private traffic, and I wouldn’t suggest doing hardcore high volume piracy through such a thing.
The idea of using one for piracy is more focused on finding a VPS provider that can accept cryptocurrency and doesn’t require your personal details.
Edit: whoops, realized I got the premises backwards in my earlier comment. Sorry about that.
I’m trying to figure out what the purpose of Nym is compared to a network like Tor or I2P. It seems to perform a symilar function, except it’s a paid product.
Cyber Ghost is also pretty good. One of the best in independent tests. Encrypted traffic, no logs, €1,59/month.
and is part of Kape Technologies an israeli company… Same as PIA, ExpressVPN and some more
Cyber Ghost is a company from Bucharest and Germany, not from Israel
Founded in 2011 in Bucharest, Romania, CyberGhost is the creator of one of the world’s most reliable privacy and security solutions in the world. The company secures and anonymizes the online presence of millions of customers across the globe. CyberGhost defends privacy as a basic human right, being the first in the industry to publish a transparency report while building new user-oriented crypto-technology for the future.
The CyberGhost team is currently formed of over 70 professionals with a strong background in the IT field, based both in Romania and in Germany, the latter being responsible for most of the software development. With both teams united by a common credo for internet anonymity, CyberGhost is a major supporter and promoter of civil rights, a free society and an uncensored internet culture.
Kape bought CyberGhost at some point, and Kape itself is, according to Wikipedia, a “British-Israeli company”.
https://www.kape.com/our-brands/ https://cyberinsider.com/kape-technologies-owns-expressvpn-cyberghost-pia-zenmate-vpn-review-sites/
That they don’t mention it on their website is somewhat worrying.
I tthink it is not so important which company bought another, if the other remain in control over their policy and headquarters. Kape is a global privacy-first digital security software provider company headquartered in London, United Kingdom.
Kape (and thus all of the VPNs they have purchased) is owned by Ted Saggi, an Israeli billionaire.
And yes, they are legally headquartered in London, but how meaningful is that? There’s hundreds of US companies that are headquartered into a handful of buildings in Delaware for legal and tax reasons. Their “development center” is based in Tel Aviv.
Cyberghost is wholly owned by kape, formerly crossrider, which was founded by veterans of Israeli unit 8200 (the cyberwarfare one!) and started out as a vendor of data harvesting middleware used by browser extensions.
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