This question is especially for people who have joined in the last week. Have you used other fediverse platforms or is this your first time really using one? What do you think of it so far? Are you aware that you can comment on Lemmy posts with a Mastodon account?
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Yes, it is. And I literally have no idea what I’m doing or what the fediverse is or how to best utilize it and I have a mastodon account but don’t use it because all of this fediverse/instance stuff stresses me out and I just want a cool community to feel like I’m a part of, not a bunch of stuff I don’t understand and I hope I can feel comfortable here with Lemmy. Oof.
Imagine there were multiple reddit websites. Reddit.com, reddit.org, reddit.social, etc. Doesn’t matter what account you have, you can see communities/subreddits across anyone of them.
That’s Lemmy.
When you make a lemmy account, it’s more like an email address. You are evolone@lemmy.ml, I am cosmicsploogedrizzle@lemmy.ml. Someone else is joeblow@beehaw.org. We can all chat and post and have a good time no matter what website/instance we post to.
That’s how users work on lemmy. Just like email. Communities on lemmy work the exact same way as users.
If all you’re interested in is that, then you can stop there and fully enjoy your time with lemmy as a reddit replacement.
The future potential and complexity comes from the next part:
The fediverse is someone said, "hey, you know how people on reddit can’t follow people on Twitter, or people on YouTube can’t subscribe to subreddits, or people on Instagram can’t leave YouTube comments? Well let’s make it so you can.
Now this isn’t perfectly implemented at the moment, and there are a lot of growing pains (it’s kinda like the wild wild West), but you can make a mastodon account (like Twitter), and follow the this lemmy community !asklemmy@lemmy.ml on it, and you’ll see all the posts and all the comments that you would otherwise see on lemmy, just in a twitter-like format.
It’s not perfect and compatibility across these decentealized apps is not perfectly impremented atm, but in the future you could theoretically have one giant interconnected web where everything from “Twitter” to “reddit” to “YouTube” to “Instagram” to whatever fediverse equivalent app are all interwoven. And if any instance of them gets a big enough head to pull something like reddit is pulling, or what Twitter has been pulling, the community can just make a new “email” on a different instance/website and continue as of nothing changed. No single website/instance can abuse their power, because another instance can be spun up any time.
I’m about 24 hours into Lemmy and beyond bamboozled so thank you intensely for your ELI5 response: really helped. My key concern is who pays to keep all the lights on?
Of course! Whoever runs the server bears the cost. How they pay for it is up to them and the community. Maybe you run your own instance and pay out if pocket. You’d be your own admin and can do whatever you want. Or you join lemmy.ml and maybe donate or sub to patreon, or you don’t pay anything. Maybe in the future some instances might make private deals to pin ads at the top in exchange for payment. It’s up to the server hoster. Right now it’s the wild wild West. If a server gets filled with ads and you don’t like it, you pick up shop and join a different server.
What lemmy/the fediverse really needs is an account migration tool, so that if you want to set up shop elsewhere, you can export all your subscriptions and settings, etc and import it into a new profile on a new instance. That will come with time
Holy shit, thank you for this explanation! This was the simplest way I have ever seen it explained and was super helpful. Very appreciated!
I feel you. What’s cool though is to see the growth over the last few days. It’s nice that here are a lot of people sick and tired of these giant tech companies and their terrible behavior. I think treating it the way you’re describing is fine enough.
I got Mastodon and liked it well enough but I’m still getting used to it. Lenny, I’ll admit, is super confusing, but I can see it’s potential and I’m really excited to get more involved. In the 10+ years I’ve been on reddit, I think I’ve only posted or commented a handful of times. With Lemmy, I want to make more of an effort to participate.
I tried Mastodon, but Twitter was never my thing anyways, so it didn’t really click. This is been a much better experience. I’m quickly getting the hang of how it works.
Mastodon felt too isolated in its approach to gathering communities for me.
I first used Mastodon but I was never one to really “get” or use Twitter either so I haven’t actually used it much. This suits my needs far better.
Same, I got a mastodon account but never really used it. Reddit and now Lemmy is my shit.
I still use mastodon to this day, but I find I get more interaction rather than just lurking and viewing pictures here. Aka more actual conversation. It’s easier to participate and not feel like you’re posting to a void
First time, liking the experience though the no central login is my biggest concern. What works for Reddit is that it’s really easy for a non-technical person to get in to it; Setup an account, login in, find, view, subscribe, post, and comment all in one place. With Lemmy/Fediverse there is a barrier with trying to explain it straight away e.g is it called Lemmy or Fediverse or Kbin etc
I get why it’s better, and I don’t know what a solution could be, but at the moment the simplicity of it in one place will keep Reddit a viable solution for a lot of people who would like it to “just work”. And it’s those people that helps build large communities.
As an example here’s a comment and reply from PrequelMemes
squabbles.io is a pretty good reddit alternative. I hear a lot of people suggesting lemmy and other federated options, but those are just confusing to me tbh. Squabbles works very similarly to reddit, so the transition should be painless.
And the reply
Thank you! I’m heading to squabbles.io right now, based upon your description of it!
I like it though the no central login is my biggest issue I think I have right now. What works for Reddit is that it’s really easy for a non-technical person to get in to it; Setup an account, login in, find, view, subscribe, post, and comment all in one place. With Lemmy/Fediverse there is a barrier with trying to explain it straight away e.g is it called Lemmy or Fediverse or Kbin etc
I get why it’s better, and I don’t know what a solution could be, but at the moment the simplicity of it in one place will keep Reddit a viable solution for a lot of people who would like it to “just work”
As an example here’s a post from PrequelMemes
squabbles.io is a pretty good reddit alternative. I hear a lot of people suggesting lemmy and other federated options, but those are just confusing to me tbh. Squabbles works very similarly to reddit, so the transition should be painless.
And the reply
Thank you! I’m heading to squabbles.io right now, based upon your description of it!
But isn’t squabbles owned by a single company? I thought I heard that. So the same thing will probably end up happening there.
Ick, keep my Twitter-like services and Reddit-like services apart lol. And unless I’m compelled with a strong real life reason, it’s Fediverse socials or bust for me going forward, I think.
I tried Mastodon and really didn’t care for it. It didn’t translate quite as cleanly into the decentralized structure I felt. If I wanted to look up a famous person I had to know their instance, which felt like a really messy structure. Still, I have hope for it’s future when they clean up a few of the less user friendly elements. Lemmy, I’ve loved. I think forums like this work way better in this decentralized way. Part of that comes from the fact that forums are anonymous anyways, unlike Twitter-esque social media platforms.
This is my first time using Fediverse accounts but I’ve always stayed away from other social media other than reddit due to privacy reasons.
I think Lemmy is cool but I will miss all the different communities and information I could find or did find on reddit, but I hope Lemmy grows into what reddit was and what it could have been.
But, yes, I have to admit I am a little heartbroken after about a decade.
No. Sometimes i use mastodon.
This is my second comment. Refugee from Reddit
Never heard of Lemmy or the Fediverse until recent times.
First time. I don’t know what I’m doing but I’m happy to be here.
This is my first dip into the fediverse.
I have no interest in a personal page like twitter or facebook / meta, so no plans for mastadon as well.
That said, can someone ELI5 the difference between Lemmy and Kbin?
Is there a reference for all the fediverse places outside of those mentioned above?
Honestly, I had never even heard of the Fediverse before, and I’m extremely active on the internet and opensource projects. It feels insane to me that I had no idea what it was, but now that I understand it - I’m here for good.
