• neo2478@sh.itjust.works
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    9 days ago

    Don’t give money to google by buying Pixel phones. Even buying used, creates demand as people are more likely to keep upgrading every year as they know it will be easy to sell their used Pixels for a good price.

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      8 days ago

      There is and there never will be a perfect solution and you shouldn’t let an imperfect solution stop you from using the best one of these just because buying a used pixel MIGHT urge somebody to buy another new one. You may not want to do that, but it is silly and way too idealistic and impractical to demand others not to switch to Graphene because of that.

      Buying a used pixel to degoogle and make your phone more secure and less likely to spy on you more than balances out the potential for there being one more new pixel on the future. There will never be a perfect solution and this one is fine enough for most. You may disagree and that’s ok.

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        8 days ago

        There are other ROMs with other hardware that provide a similar level of privacy and more than enough security without giving money to google.

        Yes they are also not perfect solutions, but they give you flexibility to support better phone manufacturers

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          8 days ago

          First off, that’s software when the user asked for an alternative to the Pixel, which is hardware.

          Secondly, I don’t see how those are an alternative. It’s websites locking you out unless you run Google Play Services. LineageOS etc doesn’t run the official PlayServices which is what this requires.

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            8 days ago

            I took the question as an alternative to Grapheme, but perhaps you are correct.

            And all those OSes you could install. Google Play Services if you want, even sandbox them like Graphene.

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          8 days ago

          How is that an alternative? You still have to buy Android phones and they’re wayyyy less secure

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            8 days ago

            There are mch more ethical companies than google to buy phones from, like Fairphone.

            And “wayyy” less secure is very debatable. There a some security features missing, but still more than secure enough for the vast majority of users.

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              8 days ago

              There is no ethical consumption under capitalism

              Also I don’t give a shit about ethics if being ethical means a cop can get into my phone

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                8 days ago

                That’s such a cop out. Good luck to a cop trying to get into my phone. Grapheme is not the only ROM that prevents this.

                And as the other comment said, there are companies that are way more ethical. Not perfect due to the system but way better.

                And this mubd set of not giving a shit about ethics as long as things work well for you, is what enables companies to be shit and exploit the world.