• grue@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    “Sideloading” is anti-property-rights loaded language.

    The correct term for installing something by means other than the Google-approved method is “installing normally.”

    It is the act of capitulating to Google’s control, due to the incorrect belief that you need its permission to use your own property how you want, that needs a new term. So far all I’ve been able to come up with is “cuckloading,” though I’m not happy with how sexism-adjacent it is and am open to suggestions.

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      Might be easier to come up with a specific name for installing something from Google. “Google loading” maybe.

      The we just go back to “installing”.

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        Walled-Garden-stalling?

        “A googol steps to add an app”

        Authoritarian-stall

        Package Micromanager

        Daddy Google’s allowances

        Controlware / Slaveware / Theirware

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        “Google loading” isn’t derisive enough. The example I came up with isn’t quite right, but I do want it to have that same feeling of being a grave insult. Maybe something like “simploading?” Or “dipshitloading?” “Brownloading” (think like “brownnosing”)? IDK, I’m just spitballing here.

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      2 months ago

      Nah cuckloading is perfect. The best way to make an insult like that not effectively belong to the sexists is just to use it in non-sexist contexts. The intrinsic meaning of cuck is perfect for this. Fuck the extrinsic meaning. We can change that.

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    2 months ago

    Awww… Uncle Google just wants what’s best for me! So what’s the harm in getting into his van? What’s the worst that could happen?

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    “Sideload” is such a dumb name for what is just the act of installing apps of your own choosing.

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      You’re missing the point. It is “just” the act of downloading and installing, which were seen as normal things to do. However, by calling it “sideloading” they can then attach any meaning, any implication they wish. This is now something different and wierd, not something normal people do, does your mom sideload? I’m pretty sure the battle for control of your phone that you bought was lost as soon as we allowed them to call it sideloading.

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    With arguments like those that person already seems like an astroturfer IMO. Also sideloading is the language corporations used to delegitimize decentralized app installation.

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    The classic “you are too dumb to choose” if only education was a thing…

    We are at a time where governments and corporations actively dumb things down until they can make this excuse, instead of actually doing what is right for the people, which is investing in education and treating people as intelligent and autonomous beings.

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    Indian accent: “Alright mam, when you install this app, I will contact you tomorrow and we can proceed with the transfer. For security reasons, don’t tell anyone you received this call.”

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      Right, the real solution is not letting old people answer phone calls anymore, I guess, lol.

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      The real sollution is to lock India off the internet until they crack down on all their scammers.

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        There are scammer call centers in many countries throughout the world. So unless you want to start shutting off a lot of developing nations from the internet, that’s not a good solution.

        It’s also not a good solution because there will always be a workaround.

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          I have to say some countries are really heavy on this. Myanmar and some provinces in India. Usually it’s corrupt governments profiting from the scams so they turn a blind eye.

          There should be more international pressure on this. Geoblocks won’t help because they’ll just proxy. But completely withholding development aid until they stop their crimes will.

          Also putting the top figures on international ban lists of course.

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          I basically never watch Youtube, its kind of cancer and Google is a spyware company.

          And this isn’t about race, its about a country cleaning up its own act. I feel basically the same way about Russia, for example. There isn’t an online servixe or system that sould not drasticly improve if Russians were blocked from the larger web. Its basically a factory for misinformation and assholes.

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            Yes, there are many problematic states, probably all of them. That’s why people thought it was sus when you singled out india.

            My advice: Download a geo-IP database and firewall yourself in.

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    As someone who replaces “core” apps with FOSS alternatives, the 24 hour wait is quite a punishment.

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      2 months ago

      We need those phone shops that actually can hack your phones back, just like when we use custom OS in nokia phones pre-smartphones, normalize custom ROM again.

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      Heads up that you should still be able to sideload over ADB (the origin of the term on android, after all) without the wait, so setting up a new device before the 24 hours are up is still doable.

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    I can get behind a delay to enable side loading and the warning screens are nothing to me since I can just click past them. Though the delay should be more like 30-60 minutes at the most.

    The real problem is requiring devs (even outside of the play store) to identify themselves. That is ridiculous and does absolutely nothing to secure the device for the user. (It only secures it under Google for their interests)

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    Are there any real statistics about the real number of scams deployed via “sideloading non verified apps?”

    I do not know the number. But I don’t think there are that many cases. Most scams I’ve seen have been via web or via a normal app downloaded on the appStore.

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      Scams require some level of idiocy, complacency or distractedness to pull off. If you’re going out of your way to install non-standard apps you’re likely paying enough attention not to fall for it.

      If youre getting a mark to install something on their phone, you’d probably have just as much luck getting them to sent you a Western Union cheque.