• James R Kirk@startrek.websiteOP
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      I tried to work in a Pa’nar syndrome one but it was too clunky. I appreciate how you just slapped “HIV ALLEGORY” on it 😂

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        Sometimes clunky problems require simple solutions lol. I couldn’t figure out any other way to represent Pa’nar syndrome in a still.

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          Listen, you got the job done not to mention this meme is specifically about how nitpicking representation is harmful to representation.

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        ENT is definitely one of my top 3 Treks. Wasn’t perfect, but I just really like the “everything is new and experimental” aspect of it. That, and the early episodes having to solve problems without relying on the transporters or having to hand-wave away why they can’t use them.

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    Racism they took head on more, but gender/sexuality they had to be more creative so as to keep berman and the execs from figuring it out.

    Gender and sexuality have made leaps and bounds since then and episodes that deal with it similarly now are more likely to be broadcast. It’s the same spirit as before, just catching up with the times.

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      And the one time they finally gave a single throwaway line to the fact that enbys exist, quote-unquote “progressives” suddenly clutch their pearls over it.

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    If they saw it before they were 14, it’s nuanced, insightful, even challenging. If they saw it after they were 14, it’s shallow insincere pandering.

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    Yeah this shit irritates me in part because I feel like Discovery has lazy writing, but it’s hard to make those criticisms of it because as soon as you start people dismiss you as a shitlord because they assume you think it’s that shit.

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      There are a lot of people out there who are “totally ok with the gays” but put such a high bar on what constitutes acceptable representation that it starts to feel like bigotry by omission.

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        Yeah, I agree. That’s the thing — I have no problem with whatever “woke” stuff people are complaining about. My complaints are things like “this is the first time anyone in Star Trek (outside of time travel) mentioned inches.”

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      Not time travel; Ben Sisko having a ‘vision’ of Benny Russel, science fiction writer.

      Or maybe Benny Russell having a vision of Ben Sisko.