I’m using Proton for privacy, not anonymity. I’ve literally put my name and surname in my email address. I don’t care if someone knows that me is me.
But I do care that no one is reading and/or automatically processing my mails.
Same. My real name is on mine too. Everything you give an email to that isn’t Google is one more piece of data Google doesn’t have presumably. If those corrupt bastards collect the aggregate anyways, that still costs them money. If it’s automated, guess what? Aggregating our data still costs money, and data centers are expensive to maintain. Every little but matters.
Stunner legal entity follows the law…
Fellas your VPN is not going to break the law for you.
I don’t get why people think that any company for that matter would go to jail for a random dude online. They do hand over metadata and everything else is encrypted. Not even Proton can access that data. When served with a court order they have to hand it over. Now if it were GMail, they’d probably make a collage with your pics and share them. That’s the difference.
Yeah but why would I pay for it?
Because, running such services costs money. And this is not a charitable organisation. GMail does this for free because they’re making money off of you with ads and by selling your data.
I really don’t get why this is so difficult to understand. Would you run a cafe offering free coffee?
cafe offering free coffee
I actually did something pretty similar for a year or so, and I expect my reasons would be incomprehensible to you.
Everybody has their reasons and it doesn’t have to make sense to anyone else especially to a random person online like me. But just out of curiosity, what were you doing? If you don’t mind sharing it.
It was a little more involved, and it’s too identifiable.
Well if you can’t mention it, then there’s no debate.
I don’t want a debate; I’m just telling you you’re wrong, something very close to that and more involved does exist, I personally have executed on it, and you almost certainly wouldn’t understand why I did it.
So you are wrong, the world is bigger than you think, and the example of what you thought was hyperbole is a thing someone who randomly saw your Lemmy comment had basically done before.
And that you have a poor grasp of what motivates people.
Without a link to the report or any other justification information this reads like a hit piece. The other important item to understand is what information actually could be released.
As much as I dunk on proton for their CEOs idiocy and lack of Linux support, I also push for accuracy and infographics are dangerous in that space.
I’ll see if I can link the relevant info once I get home and am not on a phone anymore.
The data they can hand is your acc creation information and which IP accessed the email. They can’t hand email content because of zero knowledge encryption, and they can’t hand VPN traffic because it’s not logged and they can’t be forced to log it. https://protonvpn.com/support/no-logs-vpn/
If they sold it to the government then I want my cut of the name money, if I’m on that list. If every piece of crap business/corporation is requiring me to give my name and then sells my name, I deserve at least 50% of that dosh! Class action anyone?
I have started using message.casa.
Any way to know if we are among the 32k+ disclosed users ?




