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      Without reverse engineering, there is no security. No way to find new bugs and vulnerabilities or confirm it’s backdoor free. Just blind trust only.

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      Reverse engineering prohibitions are the dumbest things.

      Let’s say I do this. Arduino sues me. Okay. Now what? What money are they going to take?

      Hell, this would be a perfect time for everyone to form an LLC and purchase Arduinos as the LLC and then release your research under your corporate name as CC0. If your LLC has no revenue, you as an individual are legally protected.

      Arduino can try to put the genie back in the bottle but good luck.

      Better companies than Arduino have tried to prevent hardware reverse engineering and have failed. Apple being the biggest company I can think of that have tried to sue people for releasing schematics of their motherboards.

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        They can’t take your money but they can bury you into the ground and use you as an example so that no one ever tries to do the same thing. Ever heard of Aaron Schwartz?

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    Maybe it’s just what I’ve been noticing, but I feel like Arduino was already losing its share of the hobbyist market. The plethora of small, cheap esp32 devices have already been taking Arduino’s place.

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      I love the ESP32, was onboard with the ESP-8266 (might have the numbers wrong, it was the predecessor), but I thought the real difference between the ESP-32 and the Rpi was that the Rpi has an OS with a possible desktop even (and all that Libux has to offer basically), as the ESP is more of a uProcessor you program in C/C++?

      Edit: Plesse disregard, I mixed up the posts and posted one levet too high too…

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        To answer your question anyway, raspberry Pi made the rp2040 chip, which is a microcontroller similar to the esp, instead of a full fat computer SOC

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    Arduino has been irrelevant for a while. There are better alternatives for everything they offer. For a start, take a look at Raspberry Pi’s microcontrollers.

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      You can also use the Arduino hardware without their IDE or libraries. You just need avr-gcc, avr-libc and a makefile. The AVR microcontrollers are very easy to program. The Arduino libraries really just get in the way once you need to do anything with timers.

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      You can get an arduino clone for a lot cheaper than you can get an rpi clone.

      Sometimes, you just need something very simple and a cheap arduino is the right choice.

      Arduino is also a lot more user friendly for newcomers.

      It’s a shame that Qualcomm will be the end of it.

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    I remember watching a video where they talked about the changes. Apparently most of the language people are really upset about applies specificly to their website and forums. I can’t find the video, probably because I am sick and have barely slept in the last 4 days. I miss sleep … and not coughing.

    Edit: changed “can” to “can’t”