I wonder if this is more common among Linux users. If an application has good keyboard support, I’m ALL over that instead of using a mouse. That’s one reason web applications really annoy me, they usually have terrible keyboard support, or the browser shortcuts interfere.
Maybe detest is too strong a word. More like I prefer to avoid it if at all possible (unless it’s something like CAD or most gaming where the mouse is basically essential)
Soooo, you don’t like using a mouse except when using a mouse is easier.
rgr that
No, only when it requires it (point and shoot, point and draw). But a lot of things id much rather use a keyboard to navigate and its frustrating when there is no support for it
And yeah, you’re going to be left behind in a lot of applications because most people prefer the point and click interface to KB shortcuts. It is what it is, I guess. Can’t you just use emacs as your environment though? (I use vi, so it’s alien to me)
edit: lol, guess not
Oh hell naw, I love to sit back, one hand resting on an arm rest, and just navigating with my mouse. Not that I mind using the keyboard, but I have a strong affinity to the mouse. I know the keyboard is “more efficient”, but I’m just more comfortable pointing at things.
I use vim btw
Mouse gives me back pain. So yes, I really despise it.
I even prefer to play with a gamepad on PC when it’s possible because it feels more ergonomic for my muscles.
When games are designed for it, controllers are almost always better imo, save for when you’re trying to aim, I very much dislike thumb sticks for aiming
I have a preference towards keyboard shortcuts, but I dont think I’m in any way anti-mouse, I’m just very pro-keyboard. If there is a quick easy keyboard shortcut, I’ll almost always use it.
Honestly, back in the windows 8 days, I never understood the backlash about the start screen/menu. My workflow was “hit windows key, type name of app. hit enter” and that workflow didnt change with the full screen mobile centric menu, so it never felt problematic to me. Plenty of other problematic things about microsoft and windows, but “But the start menu is full screen!” wasnt one of them for me.
I use a keyboard with an inbuilt trackpoint. I never have to move my hands off the keyboard to use the mouse, it’s really amazing.
The worst input method is definitely a touchscreen, directly followed by Apple’s magic mouse and touchpads.
God damn, the Magic Mouse is the worst fucking idea ever, it’s like combining a touchpad with a mouse in the worst way possible. When I was a kid, our family computer only had a Magic Mouse and I can’t count the number of times I made a misinput, scrolled too far, or had to stop using the computer until the mouse could charge
Absolutely! I was forced to work on a Mac with a Magic mouse at my first job. There was no place for my fingers to rest comfortably. I had to hover them above the mouse or otherwise the thing would always detect inputs I didn’t want.
Combined with its minimal height, it gave me quite a lot of pain. I don’t know how people can work with this atrocity.
The charging is a meme at this point, it’s really absurd. Thank god I don’t work for a boss who’s an Apple cultist anymore.
I even tried to use the mouse while it was charging by hanging half of it off the desk but apparently they made it just turn off while charging
I use a keyboard with an inbuilt trackpoint.
What are you using? “Tex” mechanical board, old Model M with trackpoint, one of those standalone Thinkpad keyboards?
A Thinkpad Compact Keyboard II. It’s really nice to type on. Only the stock feet are trash and break easily, but there are a lot of people 3D-printing more durable replacements.
Seriously depends on the application. Having to use a mouse to navigate three menu levels down for a function that could be done with a keyboard shortcut is a point where a mouse is the wrong tool. But try to get something done in a graohics program with keys only.
Kensington TB550 thumb trackball for any pointy/clicky stuff, keyboard otherwise.
I don’t like a real mouse, and haven’t for decades.
I got my first thumb trackball in the 1990s when I didn’t have a big enough desk to use a mouse. It was a Logitech Trackman Marble.
Then I got a Marble Wheel. Then the cordless one, then the M570 that replaced it.
But Logitech build quality has really went into the shitter, and after a warranty replacement, and then having to buy another replacement, I tried a couple of different thumb trackballs before settling on my Kensington one.
The ProtoArc EM01 I have is also nice, but I like the feel of the Kensington better.
Yes. It was fine when it was used to enhance 100% keyboard operable interfaces (outside of 2d spacial interfaces like drawing) but when it became dominant and keyboard controls stopped being universal, something important was lost.
My last company had two primary software products. The one customers always opted for was the green-screen version, like something out of 1989 with an AS400 backend. Funny thing is, the backend was IBM’s latest version of the 400. :)
Had a couple of customer service and tech support jobs in the 90s using such systems. Once you get the hang of the menu tree, you can haul ass through tasks. When our customers would go for the GUI product, they’d immediately revert back to the green screen.
Personally, I have challenges remembering key combinations and thus only use a few. Often, the timevitvtakes to retrieve the right keyboard equivalent takes longer than using the mouse, and often I have to use the mouse to lookup the key combo.
I need to be using a particular tool very frequently to muscle memory the key codes.
Preferring to avoid the mouse is a pretty common attitude among Linux users, just because keeping your hands on the keyboard is quicker.
I had a phase in my teenage years when I tried to do as much as I could with the keyboard. Nowadays I use too many different pieces of software for me to be able to remember all key combinations everywhere, so I’ve grown out of that.
The thing I don’t like to do is move my hand from keyboard to mouse a lot.
Yes I do. Nvim / dwm life.
Still gotta have it for web browsing though. Vimium is kinda stupid and qutebrowser never worked quite like I expected, like most minimal browsers or extensions unfortunately.
All you laptop folks are like aliens to me lol. I have one, but it’s rarely used unless I have to leave my lair.
Mouse? What is this thing you talk of?





