To be honest, im more than Tired of this whole “Mimimi, Google is restricting installing Android apps, so its worse than iOS now Mimimi”

So heres 4 Options, how to Opt out of Gservices, and therefore not have this whole Debacle of Verified Apps, in varying degrees of Difficuilty from “3 Year old iPad kid can do this” (Aka install Via Browser) to “You have to Copy 3 Text snippets and Paste them”, to even “Order Online”.

And before everyone starts Crying, there are more than Enough Apps and Alternatives to the Propriatery stuff youve been using until now. No, you dont need a Burgerking App, no, you dont need an App for Kaufland. They are Selling your Data, and thats the only reason they Exist. If you consent with having your Data sold, you have no reason to opt out of Gapps anyway.

  1. Install Via Web Browser.
  1. Install Manually (aka. Paste 3 or so Lines into cmd)
  1. Adb and Magisk MicroG Module (Please use uBlocks Badware Filter list, as there are many fake Sites)
  1. Buy a Degoogled Phone
  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    9·
    11 months ago

    The problem is that most of those custom ROMs are based on Android, so they inherit the bad parts of Android they don’t specifically take care to remove, and they don’t support most devices, so I’d have to buy a new phone for instance to use one of them, and Linux phones still lack the app support, feature support, hardware goodness, and widespread availability to be used as primary devices for people.

    Also the government supports centralised control of the internet, with laws like the ‘Online Safety’ Act and Chat Control, so we can’t trust them to save us against the evil corporations.

  • infjarchninja@lemmy.ml
    71·
    11 months ago

    This is also my worry.

    But it is also about taking personal responsibility for our privacy.

    Its like having your home continually burgled, while you continue to refuse to install new locks.

    So you install a ring doorbell instead, Amazon will keep you safe!

    Again this is not taking personal responsibilty for our privacy and safety, but relying on big tech’s surveillance answer.

    The incessant belief that you must use an app for convenience, is beyond me.

    We have our bank cards and cash to buy stuff from stores. Personally I go to the bank each week and get enough cash to last the week. pay everything cash.

    I pay all my bills online, use my bank, manage my direct debits, transfer money to my kids, all online with my linux laptop, Librewolf and a vpn. Takes 30 seconds to login.

    I do not need to authorise my login with an app. I told my bank I do not have a smart phone.

    I could use Ente Auth or KeepassXc on my desktop for 2FA. no phone required.

    Plus being an old git, I dont have to piss about with a tiny phone screen and keyboard with my gnarly fingers.

    I absolutely refuse all offers of apps.

    When asked by check-out staff if I have the app, or, do I want their app.

    I say: I dont do apps! I do not give up my privacy or share my personal data.

    As Mat says. I too worry about the future of custom roms. I managed to get all my family on custom roms.

    It is a great shame that Mozilla gave up on the Firefox OS phone. Great little phone.

    • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      11 months ago

      You’re lucky your bank doesn’t require a phone. Nationwide pushes you to use a banking app on mobile, and if you want to use the website anyway, every time you’ll have to input a passcode and an SMS verification code, or use a physical card reader.

      • infjarchninja@lemmy.ml
        2·
        11 months ago

        Hey TheLeadenSea

        I was unware that certain banks had different ways to access bank accounts.

        I’m such a dinosaur sometimes.

        I did think it was as easy as my experience. but clearly not.

        Thank you

    • Luffy@lemmy.mlOP
      1·
      11 months ago

      I do their same too, but unfortunately, my Bank requires a costum 2fa app for any Kind of online payments and online banking, but fortunately dosent use Play protect, so I can just make a profile with the apps + sandboxed Gservices

      I mean, I could use Paypal since it has the Option for SEPA and handle all my online stuff, but I’d rather just use my card instead of paypal