GNU Taler begins operating in Switzerland, distributed by the Taler Operations AG. Gnu Taler aims to be a “digital wallet” and has been used by the swiss national bank as well as the european national bank as a example for how a digital currency handed out by the state could work. It aims to be as privacy preserving as cash for the buyer while not allowing the seller to evade taxes.

Currently the Taler is brought out by a special organisation, the “Taler Operations AG”, and not the national bank, although both the national bank as well as the Taler Team have shown interest in a official digial currency by the national bank based on the Taler. But we need to relativate as the national council has stated that the introduction of a digital currency would probably take relatively major legislative changes and therefore take a bit of time.

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    Digital currency without “blockchain”, say it ain’t so! This is why I think it might actually work. It’s not based on some kind of Rube Goldberg experiment to run the world power into nothingness.

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        Customers will use traditional money transfers to send money to a digital Exchange and in return receive (anonymized) digital cash. Customers can use this digital cash to anonymously pay Merchants. Merchants can redeem the digital cash for traditional money at the digital Exchange. As Merchants are not anonymous, they can be taxed, enabling income or sales taxes to be withheld by the state while providing anonymity for Customers.

        The digital exchange seems to be centralised.

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          This is even worse that the current system as it essentially means flat tax regardless of your income. This means a poor person is paying the same income tax through purchasing items at a store who will be on the hook for the taxes so naturally will pass on to you and at the same time a rich person will pay the same price and tax. Further since it is centralized all the same issues of corruption and exploitation exist even if the intent today is good.

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            The approach to taxing isn’t determined by this tool, but by the government. What this tool tries to prevent is hidden money exchanges, which affect both methods of taxing, not only flat taxes but also income-based taxes (since a hidden sale is giving the seller a hidden income and potentially placing them at a lower income tax class).

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              It says “Payments are made after exchanging existing money into electronic money with the help of an Exchange service, that is, a payment service provider for Taler.”

              Do they say anywhere who that payment service provider is? And are there options for who to use?

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      Its centralized you mean, and is at the whims of the creator. Like comparing a scarce asset like Pokémon card to gold

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        So the blockchain supporting $Trump makes it so much more trustworthy?

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          Just because it’s built on a block chain doesn’t mean they relinquished control and decentralized it. But it’s a platform that allows you to decentralize.

          Is this worth it as an upgrade to our existing centrally controlled currency? That’s a different discussion.

          Does it solve the problem blockchain provides a solution for? Does it allow for decentralization? It appears the answer is no.

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            Does it solve the problem blockchain provides a solution for? Does it allow for decentralization? It appears the answer is no.

            And we are still waiting for a problem that blockchain can fix.

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              If you don’t think centralized currency controlled by neo-liberal capitalist states isn’t a problem to solve, we aren’t even in the same plane here.

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                And you think blockchain fixes that? Lol.

                Bitcoin is pretty fucking centralized right now.

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          That’s like saying a HDD is bad because someone can put CP on it.

          Edit: CP rhymes with “Mild Corn”.

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            Nah it’s a shitty tech that everyone wants to make happen. It could completely disappear and the tech world.would be no worse off in any way at all. The world could do without it’s absurd draw on resources. And yes I am aware that the large power draw from mining is mostly gone. It’s idle resource usage is sad