• Snot Flickerman
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    298 months ago

    Does everyone forget Lore got built first?

    Look, if Lore is the fucking prototype and he’s a madman who thinks he is superior to all other life

    …maybe, just maybe people had valid reasons to be concerned about Data long-term.

    Like if ChatGPT-Lore murdered some folks because it thought it was better than them, was disassembled, and then they released ChatGPT-Data you would fully trust the second one? Really???

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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    178 months ago

    Data was a person, to the extent that there was a very famous episode exploring defining him as such. He may have been a machine, but he had clear free will and was capable of thinking for himself, to the extent that the Federation even at their level of technology at the time had no idea how to make another one of him. He was not made specifically to fill a Starfleet uniform, either – Enrolling in Starfleet academy was his idea and he earned his commission just like everybody else. That’s not something a toaster would do, no matter how complicated of a little song it can beep.

    The existing crew of the Enterprise certainly knew this having already served with him for some time, several of them having their asses saved by him personally, and one of said asses also having been tapped.

    I imagine Sales™ would not manage to clear that bar, and Pulaski would have no idea either way (unless maybe she were thoroughly briefed).

    • @TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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      108 months ago

      I imagine Sales™ would not manage to clear that bar, and Pulaski would have no idea either way (unless maybe she were thoroughly briefed).

      But he was a LCDR in Starfleet, on board the most prestigious ship in the fleet, and clearly had the respect of the crew he worked with. She had to completely ignore all of that to display the prejudice she showed. I think it’s perfectly correct to take issue with it.

  • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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    If chat GPT were anywhere as advanced as Data I would 100% accept him as a coworker. The problem with LLMs isn’t that they’re not people, the problem is that they lack any sense of logic and abstract reasoning, relying on heuristic analysis to cover that weakness. As a result, they’re quite frequently wrong, and don’t have a way to know when they might be wrong, leading to them presenting every answer with the same level of confidence.

  • Simple Jack
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    108 months ago

    My boss 1000% would encourage us to make friends with an AI, robot, remote call center using prescripted binders but different agents every call, whatever…as if they were physical coworkers who are nervous and excited about their first day of work. Not hyperbole. He is naked in his glee at valuing sales and performance over employees.

  • @blackbelt352@lemmy.world
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    878 months ago

    Data was also wasn’t a replacement for human labor to enrich the capitalist class. I think AI would be cool if the tangible benefits made everyone’s lives better rather than just lining the pockets of rich people.because they fan pay less on labor.

    • @marcos@lemmy.world
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      Yep. Data was created by pure human hubris, without contamination from other kinds of emotion. Kinda like the Frankenstein’s monster.

    • Flying Squid
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      Data was an experiment to see if sentient life could be constructed without biological components. There was no goal in mind beyond making him as human as possible. So I agree, I’d call that very different.

  • Miles O'Brien
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    398 months ago

    If

    Data = current AI

    Then

    Modern lifeforms = aerobic bacterium,

    Modern flip Smartphones = Motorola Microtac,

    SR-71 = Wright Model B,

    Rimac Never = Ford Model A.

    Comparing Data to modern ai is just an insult to Data.

  • @Infynis@midwest.social
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    158 months ago

    Except she did it immediately after a landmark case that specifically rules that he’s not just a tool

    • Snot Flickerman
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      Sounds like an old person to me!

      “Wait, there’s new evidence that contradicts what I learned 50 years ago in my youth? There was even a court case confirming the science? Well… I don’t buy it. I SAW IT ON THE TELEVISION.”

  • @profdc9@lemmy.world
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    28 months ago

    Isn’t there some way to use the liars paradox in Star Trek to destroy super intelligent computers? That would seem such a more satisfying way to destroy it.