Hear me out, the mascot is a freaking chameleon, that’s cool as shit man.
Also it’s a German engineered distro, German engineering wins again!
Zypper is just a funnier name for a package manager and it has Tumbleweed which is arch but actually doesn’t break for once!
Your rebuttal?
Zypper may be a better name than apt, but it doesn’t have super cow powers.
You find Zypper a better name than Pacman?
I always find it interesting, when people claim they don’t like Arch, because it breaks, supposedly.
Out of genuine curiosity, what did you find, that kept breaking, that wasn’t user error, and wasn’t easily reparable?
I always was and will be team SUSE, no matter what. With other distros I had bad experiences at some point. Never with SLES or OpenSUSE. Although, currently I have no OpenSUSE installation, as it is not suitable for gaming.
Anyone care to share their experiences with SUSE Enterprise Linux, or with the container focused OpenSUSE MicroOS? Looking to play around with it since it looks a lot more straightforward compared to RHEL (Red Hat looks great, just having trou_understanding their offerings as they have a ton) and hoped some folks knew a thing or two…
I use openSUSE. Zypper is a PITA compared to pacman.
Got to admit, the zypper argument is compelling.
“zypper up”! is the best upgrade command.
You’re forgetting that pacman can show a little pacman as the loading bar. Also I’m always happy to run updates so typing “yay” into my terminal just feels right.
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“MY FAVORITE SPORTSBALL TEAM IS THE BEST!!!”
Can we just moderate these posts?
This post seems lighthearted and not mean-spirited. I do wish they said “awesome” or “great” instead of “the best,” but they’re not trashing other distros and it is relevant so I don’t see the problem.
At least it’s those positive things. From the influx of newcomers here, I just hate that they see posts like this before than can objectively see the field for the trees.
If this entire sub becomes “OMG THIS IS THE BEST”, it’s going to be nothing but noise real fucking fast.
Do we have a linux circle jerk community yet? If not, that might help.
Maybe you should take a break.
That person should take a break, I’m just jostling you know, bit of tomfoolery and joking around.
It’s almost like some people like that user should eat some snickers and read a book on bunny rabbits or something
Don’t worry, almost everyone did get the joke and it was funny imho.
Never tried it, but everyone I know who has tried it says its the most stable rolling release OS ever. That is pretty cool. Btrfs support is cool too, copy-on-write, deduplication, and whole-disk snapshot and rollback capability, its great for keeping your data safe.
I don't care about rolling releases, I get my stability from Debian, or sometimes Mint. If I want the latest software I’ll install Guix packages or FlatPaks. And I can still use Btrfs on Debian.
I used both tumbleweed and leap for a bit and they really are good. I’m actually using tumbleweed on a home server right now and it’s been a champ. But…
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My biggest gripe is opensuse seems to use different package names than any of the other distros for basic packages. I had to install a package that used capitals in the package name, and coming from mostly debian based distros, that made me rationally angry when trying to find the package I needed. I think it was network-manager or something that’s usually installed by default and I wanted something familiar.
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Online directions for setting something up usually has deb and/or fedora rpm directions, which is usually just some difference in package names and the equivalent install command, searching the base package will let you figure it out. I had very few issues following debian/Ubuntu directions and translating them for fedora. Opensuse is always non-existent so you always need to translate those directions for opensuse, which is usually like doing it for fedora until you run into point (1).
I agree that (1) is particularly painful on openSUSE, because of (2), and I do agree that Fedora tends to be more similar to Debian/Ubuntu, but package names differing between distros is pretty universal for any non-derivative distros.
For example, I tried to use
nix-shell, which basically lets you set up a small, reproducible build environment using packages from NixOS. And it was working excellently, except I could not figure out for the life of me, what the names of the NixOS packages are that provide certain C libraries…
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Yup I agree, openSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma desktop is just awesome. my favourite distro at this moment,
I’ll concede that the logo is good but I found the package manager confusing. Also I like compiling packages from source so only a couple of distros allow me to fully dive into that. It’s Gentoo for me, I’m afraid.
Why the fuck does it ask for root password to change every little thing? Want to change network password? Root password. Install a flatpak? Root password. Sneeze? You guessed it, root password.
I’d be using it instead of Fedora if it wasn’t for that shit. I even tried to spin myself a custom OpenSuse ISO…
It might be a bit tighter than Fedora, I haven’t tried Fedora so I wouldn’t know but Flatpaks can still be installed as user, no pw. All mine are, by default.
But you still need to add the remote… With a root password of course. At least last time I tried.
Surely, you could add a --user remote without a problem?
Probably trough the commandline, it has been a long time since I last checked, but not using the gui, which asked for the password for any repository modification.
The default config for sudo is to ask for root password. I too was annoyed by this and had to change the setting to ask for the user password, not root, every time I used sudo.
Yeah, that’s the first distro that I use in a long time (last time before that I was running some early version of Ubuntu MATE), and having a blast already. I also very like customizability of KDE Plasma 6.
Arch does not just randomly break and Zypper is unfathomably slow.
I worked on a SuSE-derived Linux back in the day.
What we agreed we’d be getting: a working product ready for customization an extension as required. What we got: a corpse with the skin and organs removed, effectively kicked out of a van at our doorstep before it drove off.
It’s not that the packaging was bad - it was - but that the environment in and relations outside the organization were terrible. As it impacted our work and probably impacted their quality long-term, I’ve avoided it since.
What’s your recommendation for distro? Not arch or fedora please, bad experience with updates, both system broke almost always because i install a lot of software, so far only Debian worked good for me, but i want rolling release, maybe Debian sid gonna work for me, I’ve thinked of tubleweed recently but seeing your comment it got me thinking again
