Why exactly does vehicleprivacyreport want my VIN instead of year make and model? That’s me giving an unvetted third party website the unique tracking token for my car….
Lets talk about IMEIs of our phones too… Why is it illegal to change your phone IMEI?
Exactly!
On one hand yes, but on the other hand, doesn’t it confuse the cell network? I think the IMEI is used for routing or some other similarly basic operation. Like the MAC address, but it’s for a larger area and more easily can cause trouble
No, there are no confusions. Changing the “id” like the MAC address or the IMEI has no impact on any system.
Its just like a new device joins a network.
For example, when a client device gets its IP from the dhcp server on a router, which allocates a random ip from a specific pool, it does not influence anything like ip packets routing…
The real issue is that it is forbiden, BECAUSE if you randomize it you do not have an unique id anymore to trace back a specific device…
Hope is more clear for you now!
Changing the “id” like the MAC address or the IMEI has no impact on any system.
On the system none, yeah. But if you pick an IMEI that’s also used by an other phone, that is what can cause trouble, as I know. It’s the same as when multiple devices have the same MAC or IP address on the same network.
For example, when a client device gets its IP from the dhcp server on a router, which allocates a random ip from a specific pool, it does not influence anything like ip packets routing…
That’s because it is not random. The DHCP server keeps track of the addresses it has assigned to someone, and will never tell the next new client to use an IP it has already assigned someone.
But if you set your IP statically and pick an IP that is used, or if you run multiple DHCP severs for the same network without coordination, then problems will come.Yes you are correct!
But in our discussion it was implied/assumed a random UNIQUE IMEI or MAC address.
For example most of people have a pile of unused older phones which are NOT IN USE and you could use thoses IMEIs without issues.
a random UNIQUE IMEI
How do you guarantee that it’s unique? I think you can’t
For example most of people have a pile of unused older phones which are NOT IN USE and you could use thoses IMEIs without issues.
Fair, but how does one know which IMEIs were used by now unused phones?
IMEIs are unique by design… Any existing device SHOULD have a unique IMEI. So when you use an older device IMEI should work perfectly.
Theoretically, the SIM has its own MAC that’s used for routing on the cellular network; however, the network is required to route 911 calls even without a SIM, and that’s done via IMEI.
Hardware in cars, like hardware in computers drifts in configuration over manufacturing time. Some cars from a manufacturer might have some granularity of tracking that earlier units off the line didn’t. Toyota does this with their Camry hybrids, for example.
Of course they lied about it. I don’t know how anybody could have believed them in the first place.
Because the general population doesn’t know much about data privacy and they are purposefully mislead and inticed into accepting agreements that share all that information out. The point of NBTV is to raise awareness.
They’re fed propaganda to believe that privacy doesn’t matter….
But just imagine a Google admin had access to all the information about you and wanted to blackmail you into doing something…. The sheer power of that is terrifying.
I’m thanksful that there are more people like us who understand the source of the issues…
Exactly! This person knows what I am saying! ☝️
Bikes are great. Just saying.
Until you have to travel over 40 miles in any direction.
I live car-free, and I travel over 40 miles every now and then.
Well done mate!
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I don’t need that: I live in a city. Suburbs suck.
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What argument? I’m just saying that it works for me and many others.
Most commutes aren’t 40 miles even for suburbanites. Some people get worked up for suggesting that biking is viable for a lot of us for no reason, talking about edge cases, that often could be covered by public transport.
40?
You’re in better shape than I am.
Probably because he rides a bike
No, because when it’s over 40 he either uses a bus, train, plane, or someone else’s car. He never said he bikes 40mi, he says “sometimes he travels 40mi.”
Seems the commenter you replied to either thinks he means bikes, or was making a joke about the obvious missing information on the method of over 40mi travel.
And only some e-bikes have a built-in cell phone.
Yes.
I’d be up for a review on new models, e.g https://kilow.com/pages/la-bagnole from France, which claims to be repairable.
That thing looks hilarious!



