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doodledup@lemmy.world to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

‘AI is reliant on mass surveillance’ and we should be cautious, warns head of messaging app

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‘AI is reliant on mass surveillance’ and we should be cautious, warns head of messaging app

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doodledup@lemmy.world to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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‘AI is reliant on mass surveillance’ and we should be cautious, warns head of messaging app | 7.30
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Our data is valuable. The information we share online is being used for all sorts of things - to spy on us, influence the advertising we see, train algorithm...
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  • qprimed@lemmy.ml
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    from the video…

    I think we need to be very cautious with the AI narrative where we are being lead to confuse mass surveillance with intelligence and by doing so initiate these corporate technologies into the core of our social and governmental institutions.

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    Why is Signal so reliant on Google? It’s not even in F-Droid

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      There is a fork on F-Droid that isn’t reliant on Google push (it uses Unified Push) called Molly. I donate to both Molly and Signal.

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      Signal is using Google Push messaging, but it could be used with websocket. And officially it’s not on fdroid because they don’t want forks of their app

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        Yet the Molly fork supports UnifiedPush so I can reuse my connection with mf XMPP server to deliver notification from a server I control. Folks have asked for UnifiedPush or MQTT as an alternative to having multiple persistent socket connections open on your device, but Signal doesn’t seem to care.

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        How would that prevent you from forking the app? F-droid isn’t a repository for the code of the app. I don’t think this is related at all.

        I don’t actually know the reason why it’s not on F-droid but I assume it has some historical reason. It has never been on F-drroid since Text-secure. Moxy Marlinspike was strictly against it afaik. If somebody has more detail on it, feel free to share it.

        • Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈@lemmy.world
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          You’re not allowed to upload apps with proprietary blobs. Google Push services is a proprietary blob.

        • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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          Because today if you find a Signal app on Fdroid you’re sure that it’s nonofficial, on the play store only one app is allowed, the official.

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      I’m guessing its not fully open source, but I don’t actually know.

      • Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈@lemmy.world
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        The App is open source, but they include google push services, which is not

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        It is fully open-source. The distribution of the application is completely unrelated. You can still read the code and verify the build you’re running.

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          Thanks for the clarification.

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      They are vehemently against self hosting as well.

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    I have yet to meet a person who gives a shit about AI. I have yet to meet a person who has intentionally used AI. It’s all marketing bs and a way to mine our data.

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      I had a classmate that was really exstatic about AI, like he basically believed its the second coming of christ. And then another one who was like “ohh look i can use this to make neat wallpapers”. That was about all the resonance i got from my social circles.

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      I don’t like the idea o LLMs everywhere, but I do use chatgpt quite a lot as a point of entrance to any topic that I might not know the existence of yet

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      I use LLMs just about every day. It’s better than web-search for certain things, and is useful for some coding tasks. I think they’re over-hyped by some people, but they are useful.

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      I’m in university. Every student uses chatGPT. Constantly.

      In our last exam, the prof basically just said “cat’s out of the bag, you can use chatGPT in the exam” (he gives open note exams).

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    Indeed, reminded me of https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/05/luring-test-ai-engineering-consumer-trust which I know think of as emotional honey pots, like https://techcrunch.com/2024/06/18/former-snap-engineer-launches-butterflies-a-social-network-where-ais-and-humans-coexist/

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    I thought she made some very good points, but the quote in the title makes no sense to me.

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      I simply took the title of the video. :shrug:

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        Yes, she said that. But what she said there just doesn’t make any sense.

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    While watching how much better AI has gotten at analyzing video, I got super creeped out, about surveillance used incorrectly.

    https://youtu.be/_mkyL0Ww_08?si=IOhroXe-TaRVYl5Y

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    How else is AI supposed to grow? It’s supposed to observe everything in existence.

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