I went to Craigslist in my local area for the first time in awhile. I used to like “best of” Craigslist because some of them were great, there still are some, but its just not the same. A community I used to visit had about half the number of posts as I remember, and of jobs and things for sale, I would say roughly half the posts are just bottom feeding companies autoposting one post a day.

Is Craigslist going to be another web 1.0 app that just dies off? Is it the same in your area?

Craig himself is long since retired from doing stuff and they never seemed to be interested in working with other apps because most of them just scrape and don’t add value to CL, but the Fediverse can, if there was a filter for the spam. What do you think?

#craigslist #fediverse #federation

  • @makeasnek@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    It would be nice to have a decentralized or federated buy/sell platform that replaces craigslist. Facebook marketplace has absolutely eaten craigslist for lunch, and I hate that I have to use it to sell stuff, but there are few viable alternatives for local sales.

    eBay is great until you want to sell a $300 iPhone and don’t want to mess with buyer return fraud which is rampant on that platform (and most custodial payment services like PayPal). I don’t sell anything on eBay for over >$100, got burned too many times.

  • arefx
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    95 months ago

    In my experience yes. The Facebook marketplace killed it. Which sucks because I refuse to use facebook.

  • @ShepherdPie@midwest.social
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    125 months ago

    Craigslist died in my area the minute Marketplace opened up. It’s a shame too because Marketplace is hot garbage for browsing cars. You can select what color you want but not engine or drivetrain for example.

  • Snot Flickerman
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    5 months ago

    Fighting off bots and scrapers has become a huge problem for every site on the internet.

    It’s not surprising that a site that has kept a web 1.0 ethos and style hasn’t updated the back-end to more appropriately deal with these types of attacks.

    Further, craigslist functioned on not needing a ton of moderators for the whole shebang. Keeping it simple allowed costs to be low.

    The bot armies have changed that calculus, now you need a ton of well-paid moderators to make it functional, and I would suspect a site like Craigslist simply doesn’t pull enough income to be able to justify those sort of costs.

    So instead, it will wither and rot on the vine.

  • mesamune
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    445 months ago

    Not where I’m at. Less young people have Facebook so will use other services like Craigslist. Yard sales are also popular.

      • Snot Flickerman
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        Young people don’t use Facebook because it’s full of old people just like what happened to MySpace and young people moving to Facebook because it was… full of old people.

        TikTok went from being a Gen Z hangout to being filled with millennials who wanted to stay hip and young, and now young people are bailing on TikTok, too.

        It always goes: Youth find cool space. Older youth want to stay hip and young and so populate youth space. Older youth quickly age up, soon making it a non-youth space. Younger youth leave to find a new cool space for youth. Some kind of Samsara.

  • @BertramDitore@lemmy.world
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    255 months ago

    At least as far as apartment listings in California go, in my experience most of them are scams and phishing schemes. So yeah, 5-10 years ago most were legit postings, now it’s flipped.

  • CRUMBGRABBEROP
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    195 months ago

    Craigslist was one of the examples of the potential of the early internet, where we could have nice things because all the users valued it. Its falling victim to enshittification even with no ads and no connection to big tech.

    • @Tikiporch@lemmy.world
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      You have to pay to sell things on there now as well. Might as well use ebay or letgo or something like that.

      • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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        When did that happen? I sold several pieces of woodshop equipment there in the past year and didn’t pay anything.

          • @lesbian_seagull@lemm.ee
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            I hear ebay is testing no selling fees for individual sellers on most items, so there’s that possibility. They did it in Germany and it was a hit, so it’s slowly coming stateside I think.

  • @datavoid@lemmy.ml
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    305 months ago

    Like others here, facebook took over the market …market in my area as well.

    However, I think we can all agree Craigslist really died the second they removed the casual encounters section.

    • @Etterra@lemmy.world
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      You mean the “totally not prostitution, for real you guys, I mean it, don’t arrest me” section? Because that’s why all the hookup and dating sections vanished. It was even in the news at the time.

      • @datavoid@lemmy.ml
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        The one time I went on that site for that reason was in the early 2010s, pre-tinder. The other person was real, but substantially less female than advertised. At least they were polite when I told them I wasn’t interested?

  • ArxCyberwolf
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    105 months ago

    Everyone here uses Kijiji or Facebook Markeplace. Craigslist isn’t on anyone’s radar because it has a reputation for being sketchy.

  • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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    125 months ago

    I posted several large wood working machines for sale there in the past year and every one was bought within 24 hours.

  • @Roopappy@lemmy.ml
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    265 months ago

    I still like it. But it does have two problems:

    1. Post spam. There is no enforcement of the posting rules, and nobody reacts if they are reported. For example, I’m looking for a Volvo, and people post a Dodge but put every car manufacturer name in the listing so they show up in every search.

    2. Scam fucking overload. Every time I post anything for sale, the scam traffic is overwhelming. I listed a car and got like 12 similar scam responses. Most appeared to be chat bots with no human behind it. Some surprised me by responding to my sarcastic replies.

    But I still look there. The site works for the most part, especially if you use the search modifiers. And selling stuff works too. Sometimes you get murdered, but it’s rare.